Providnikov vs Mattysse/Garcia

[Cutthroat]

Defensive master? WTF?Alvarado was way behind when the fight was stopped, I haven't see the punch stats but I'm sure they favor Provodnikov clearly. And he has more boxing skills than Rios, he can actually move his head on the inside, throw counters and pivot to create angles. Did you watch the fight sober?

Of course he was behind when the fight was stopped, however up until the 1st KD which occurred late in the fight he was blocking practically everything Pro was throwing. The fight was pretty much even as well. Pro was occasionally landing a couple hard shots per round, mainly when they traded, and it took its toll on the weight drained Alvarado.

[Foreign Soil]

Alvarado didn't block that many shots. The only time he didn't take shots is when Provodnikov helped Mikey out and simply didn't throw.

[DannYankee]

Garcia has better movement than Alvarado and Provodnikov cuts off the ring better than Matthysse that would be an interesting fun fight but Garcia cruises to a UD if he dances as well as he did Matthysse until he got the upper hand. Now Matthysse vs Provodnikov is a scary fight, because both guys have sucky defense but hit hard and have iron granite chins, and i wouldn't give 2 ****s who wins tbh i just think would make for a fun watch.

[Cutthroat]

"Seeing Bradley beat him" as if thats an insult or something to look down apon...Bradley just beat Marquez without much trouble and he's top 10 lb for lb...Nothing wrong with barely losing to Bradley.

Provodnikov fought Bradley to a tougher fight than Marquez did.....


Provodnikov would beat the **** out of overrated Matthyse...Alvarado would have pieced Matthyses ass up to...And Bradley would embarrass him.

Bradley didn't fight Marquez the way he did Ruslan, get it through your head. He went into the Pro fight trying to prove something after all the flack he got about the Pac robbery. He went in there and tried to brawl with Pro, even exchanging punches when he was hurt, that is not Bradley's style at all.

When he decided to box he was winning easily, when he decided to brawl is when Ruslan gave him trouble. Provodnikov did nothing to cause Tim to change his style, it was all Bradley, it's obvious if you watched the fight.

If Bradley actually went into the fight boxing, moving like he normally does he wins that fight in a shut out.

[joesaiditstrue]

They both kill him.

I'm not sold on Provodnikov, I thought Alvarado was going to win but after seeing him look like a skeleton I didn't think he'd make it past 3, instead he was equal with Pro. up until the last few rounds. I'm not even sure if Pro can beat Rios.

Seeing Bradley beat him the way he did also doesn't make me believe he can beat the top guys at 147. He's got an great chin and great power, but lacks everything else.

I think Danny's size and movement ****s all over what Alvarado can do in the ring, I think Danny's combinations and movement would be too much for Alvarado

I think Matthysse vs Ruslan is a pick-em fight, Matthysse probably has similar power but better defense but struggles with volume punchers (at least this is what people have said about him in the amateurs)

again, styles make fights, this doesn't mean Matthysse is a bad fighter by any means and he's my favorite fighter right now, but if you break down this matchup, it's a pick em fight. Danny edged Matthysse but I think he would be able to handle Ruslan much better than Tim Bradley

[Foreign Soil]

Bradley didn't fight Marquez the way he did Ruslan, get it through your head. He went into the Pro fight trying to prove something after all the flack he got about the Pac robbery. He went in there and tried to brawl with Pro, even exchanging punches when he was hurt, that is not Bradley's style at all.

When he decided to box he was winning easily, when he decided to brawl is when Ruslan gave him trouble. Provodnikov did nothing to cause Tim to change his style, it was all Bradley, it's obvious if you watched the fight.

If Bradley actually went into the fight boxing, moving like he normally does he wins that fight in a shut out.

Bradley is always a sitting duck for the overhand right. If Bradley ever wants more Ruslan fist in his mouth, he knows where to find him. I'll be feeling bad for the Bradley fans who are nervous as hell and upset throughout that fight, if it ever happened.

[joesaiditstrue]

Garcia has better movement than Alvarado and Provodnikov cuts off the ring better than Matthysse that would be an interesting fun fight but Garcia cruises to a UD if he dances as well as he did Matthysse until he got the upper hand. Now Matthysse vs Provodnikov is a scary fight, because both guys have sucky defense but hit hard and have iron granite chins, and i wouldn't give 2 ****s who wins tbh i just think would make for a fun watch.

I disagree that Ruslan cuts the ring better than Matthysse, he's just more willing to do it from the start of the fight, whereas Lucas doesn't cut the ring until he's sold that he can take the other guys power or if he feels the other guy doesn't want to get tagged

Watch more Matthysse fights if you wanna comment about his ability to cut the ring, he's very good at it

I actually think Ruslan did a poor job of cutting the ring against Alvarado and Bradley, Alvarado's movement gave Ruslan fits tonight but Alvarado couldn't move for all 12 rounds, and he started gassing around the 5th round. I'm surprised Mike didn't realize a lot sooner than when he started his offense first, it froze Ruslan, similar to what happens to Matthysse when guys constantly throw first at him, he freezes and waits til they're done punching.

If Mike had moved more laterally in the center of the ring, and threw more combinations he would've had Ruslan guessing. He had a terrible game plan but he's not as good as what people here thought, but he's exactly what I thought he was, a very very basic boxer who will struggle against volume guys who have fast hands and fast feet (Rios has neither of these)

[joesaiditstrue]

I also disagree with you assertion that Matthysse has "sucky defense"

He only landed 19 fewer punches than Danny did, and that's with one eye.

But that's off-topic and for another discussion

[Outworn]

Don't get too excited. Provodnikov is a HBO fighter and I don't think he will be fighting on Showtime.

Either way I would favor Danny and Lucas over Ruslan when all of them are at their 100%.

I got the feeling Alvarado wasn't. Maybe he was really weight drain or all the wars have caught up with him.

[Foreign Soil]

"I disagree that Ruslan cuts the ring better than Matthysse, he's just more willing..."

Keyword, willing... Matthysse's will goes out the window when opponents don't lay down for him. You can't reward Matthysse for something he doesn't do. It wouldn't take much imagination to figure out that Matthysse wouldn't react well at all to being hit by Provodnikov.