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  • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    THe standards for Pac is higher than for Floyd. Pac is also favourite against everyone. Hed probably be favoourite against JMM in a rematch even though he just got koed by him. Hed be favourite against bradley even though he just lost to bradley supposedly.

    Pac is a much harder worker than Floyd, fighting every 3 times to floyds once almost and people sstill expect more from Pac, whilst Floyd can fight the Ortiz and Guerreros of this world
    If Maidana fought Pac it would be legit, but people might just say Maidana was made to order for pac.
    No they're not you trolling ******.

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    • Originally posted by WESS View Post
      No they're not you trolling ******.
      Yes they are its a Floyd fan myth that the standards for Floyd are higher.
      Pac fights so much more than FLoyd without taking layoffs, yet he is still expected to fight p4p fighters as a matter of routine as if its no big deal.

      When he beat JMM in the third fight, he without thinking makes his next fight with Bradley, no will he fight this person or that person garbage like Floyd does. Floyd fights Ortiz and Guerrero, thats all he can muster.

      The standards for Pac are far, far higher for Pac than Floyd. Much higher its not comparable.

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      • Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View Post
        No they are not. Pac got way more credit for his victories against Hatton, De La Hoya, Marquez, and Cotto. And he never gets criticized for cherry picks like Rios but Floyd gets called a cherry picker for fighting guys like Canelo, a fighter the fans wanted to see him fight.
        Think about what you say more clearyly before posting. Maybe Pac got way more credit because his performances were way better ie stopping Hatton at his best weight at 140 without ref help, stopping DLH who was favourite, dropping JMM countless times and softening him up for Floyd, who then went on to bloat him up, while cheating the scales, and stopping Cotto, need i go on? Floyd catch weighted Canelo so change the record will you?

        At the same time, excuses like Floyd beat hatton first? So its clear people try discredit Pacs wins.
        You'll agree the standard for Pac is far higher. Stopping Hatton in 2 rounds still isnt enough to cancel out Floyds beating Hatton before Pac in Floyd fans eyes.
        Pac would have had to have stopped hatton in 20 seconds wouldnt he have to get the same credit as Floyd? So its clear Floyd gets credit for his hatton win, just not as much credit as Pac, as Floyds performance wasnt as good.
        Last edited by hugh grant; 12-30-2013, 08:20 AM.

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        • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
          Yes they are its a Floyd fan myth that the standards for Floyd are higher.
          Pac fights so much more than FLoyd without taking layoffs, yet he is still expected to fight p4p fighters as a matter of routine as if its no big deal.

          When he beat JMM in the third fight, he without thinking makes his next fight with Bradley, no will he fight this person or that person garbage like Floyd does. Floyd fights Ortiz and Guerrero, thats all he can muster.

          The standards for Pac are far, far higher for Pac than Floyd. Much higher its not comparable.
          2010, the year Pac wanted nothing to do with the best.

          Mayweather; fights P4P, Champions/Title holders and Top Contenders (Mosley, Ortiz, Cotto, Guerreo and Alvarez

          Pac: does just the opposite by fighting washed up bums (Clottey, Margarito and Mosley). Pac then "picked" fighters who do not campaign at WW nor had they ever won a fight there (JMM, Bradley and Rios).


          Yet you are sitting here crying about the guy who fights Champions, Title holders, top contenders and P4P who is also the lineal Champion ATM? lol That's called irony.

          You can't even name a fighter that was a WW/JMW Champion or Title holder that Pac fought after the year 2010. lol

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          • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
            Think about what you say more clearyly before posting. Maybe Pac got way more credit because his performances were way better ie stopping Hatton at his best weight at 140 without ref help, stopping DLH who was favourite, dropping JMM countless times and softening him up for Floyd, who then went on to bloat him up, while cheating the scales, and stopping Cotto, need i go on? Floyd catch weighted Canelo so change the record will you?
            Well you just destroyed your own agenda by discrediting fighters who fight other fighters who are not at their best weight. Bradley, JMM and Rios all fought Pac at WW where they UNLIKE HATTON, had never won a WW fight or had ever held a title. It wasn't their best weight.

            At the same time, excuses like Floyd beat hatton first? So its clear people try discredit Pacs wins.
            That's not an excuse. That is just a fact you jack a$$.

            You'll agree the standard for Pac is far higher. Stopping Hatton in 2 rounds still isnt enough to cancel out Floyds beating Hatton before Pac in Floyd fans eyes.
            Pac would have had to have stopped hatton in 20 seconds wouldnt he have to get the same credit as Floyd? So its clear Floyd gets credit for his hatton win, just not as much credit as Pac, as Floyds performance wasnt as good
            .
            Just a **** sentence of gibberish. Clearly you have been traumatized by Floyd KO'ing Hatton years ago in one of the most demanded fights of that time..

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            • Originally posted by WESS View Post
              Well you just destroyed your own agenda by discrediting fighters who fight other fighters who are not at their best weight. Bradley, JMM and Rios all fought Pac at WW where they UNLIKE HATTON, had never won a WW fight or had ever held a title. It wasn't their best weight.



              That's not an excuse. That is just a fact you jack a$$.



              Just a **** sentence of gibberish. Clearly you have been traumatized by Floyd KO'ing Hatton years ago in one of the most demanded fights of that time..

              You'll find Pac beat JMM in all manner of weights, whereas Floyd can only do it at his best weight. You will also find Bradley has found his best weight and that's 147, Bradley was right all along when he said he will be more comfortable at 147.
              As for Rios he is no different that Guerrero, Guerrero stepped up weight just like Rios. But Rios looked two divisions higher than Pac, whereas Guerrero is the same size as FLoyd.
              Whereas Hatton struggled with every 147 fight he ever had, Bradley is shining and just had his 3 best wins.

              Whereas Pac fights guys like Margarito who is 3 divisions bigger. Making him dangerous. Marge may not have had titles therefore Pac is can be discredited but it don't take away how dangerous Margarito is at that size. Floyd had to CW the shrimp Canelo.
              The standard for Pac is far higher than FLoyd. I guess you have got used to the idea that it wasn't so, so it might upset you to hear the reality.
              Last edited by hugh grant; 12-30-2013, 02:52 PM.

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              • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                You'll find Pac beat JMM in all manner of weights, whereas Floyd can only do it at his best weight.
                Floyd embarrassed JMM so bad, JMM never wants to think about a Mayweather fight again. Take notice that the only fight JMM agrees that he truly ever lost was to Floyd. Sad part is, Floyd is held to such high standards that fighting an ATG/HOF'er like JMM would be considered a cherry pick for Floyd. Not Pac.

                You will also find Bradley has found his best weight and that's 147, Bradley was right all along when he said he will be more comfortable at 147.
                Yeah now. It wasn't when Pac fought him. You cry about Hatton not fighting at his best weight vs Floyd (because you hold Floyd to a much higher standard) yet you're trying to justify why its ok for Pac to fight a fighter that was not fighting at his best weight (because you hold him to much lower standards).

                As for Rios he is no different that Guerrero, Guerrero stepped up weight just like Rios. But Rios looked two divisions higher than Pac, whereas Guerrero is the same size as FLoyd.
                Guerreo fought and held a title at 147, Rios did not. Notice the difference?

                Whereas Hatton struggled with every 147 fight he ever had, Bradley is shining and just had his 3 best wins.
                Yes, Bradley looks solid at WW now. He didn't when Pac fought him. He was a JWW not a WW.

                Whereas Pac fights guys like Margarito who is 3 divisions bigger. Making him dangerous. Marge may not have had titles therefore Pac is can be discredited but it don't take away how dangerous Margarito is at that size. Floyd had to CW the shrimp Canelo.
                Margarito was busted for plaster, banned and hadn't won a fight in years. It was an all new low of lows for Pac to not only give him a pay day but to cherry pick a washed up past prime losing bum that was proven a coward and a cheat. Worst fight of Pac's career until he decided to fight Mosley. Another washed up has been who couldn't even beat Sergio Mora (and wasn't "too good" anymore to duck).

                The standard for Pac is far higher than FLoyd. I guess you have got used to the idea that it wasn't so, so it might upset you to hear the reality.
                You have said nothing that makes this even plausible. In fact you have destroyed you're own logic numerous times. You can't even justify you're argument without contradicting yourself. It's hilarious.

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                • Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  Floyd embarrassed JMM so bad, JMM never wants to think about a Mayweather fight again. Take notice that the only fight JMM agrees that he truly ever lost was to Floyd. Sad part is, Floyd is held to such high standards that fighting an ATG/HOF'er like JMM would be considered a cherry pick for Floyd. Not Pac.
                  Again, you are getting desperate. Its a cherry pick for Floyd as he bloated JMM up 2 divisions. At the time it was considered a good comeback fight for Floyd though. But once Floyd beat him, Floyd fans got carried away boasting about how Floyd did.
                  You talk about how Bradley didn't have a WW resume and it wasn't sure how well hed perform? Well we didn't know how JMM could perform at 140 let alone 147. And we know hatton didn't do so well at 147. So again Floyd is a charity case and Pac is held to a far higher standard than Floyd and his fans can ever dream of.


                  Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  Yeah now. It wasn't when Pac fought him. You cry about Hatton not fighting at his best weight vs Floyd (because you hold Floyd to a much higher standard) yet you're trying to justify why its ok for Pac to fight a fighter that was not fighting at his best weight (because you hold him to much lower standards).
                  You don't understand the fact, that Hatton had proven himself not to be able to perform at his best at 147 prior to fighting Floyd. Bradley had not proven himself to be bad at 147. Do you understsand that? On the contrary most people expected Bradley to be able to do it at 147 the big lump. You are just being a pessimist and trying to downgrade Pac out of fear and are being petty beyond the call of duty. Bradley said hed perform better at 147 and he knows better than you im afraid to say. He was spot on. Reality hurts doesn't it.


                  Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  Guerreo fought and held a title at 147, Rios did not. Notice the difference?
                  Guerrero is a cherry pick for Floyd. Not a p4p fighter and not dangerous. Pac would have stopped him. Rios was a comeback fight for Pac and doesn't undo Pacs work prior to that.

                  Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  Yes, Bradley looks solid at WW now. He didn't when Pac fought him. He was a JWW not a WW.
                  Well, he never didn't look solid at WW, unlike Hatton. Bradley said hed do better at 147 so stop arguing over nothing. People don't automatically assume Bradley wouldn't do well. No one knew hatton wouldn't be so good at 147, until he struggled against Collazo, and even said himself he cant do it at 147 before actually even fighting Floyd. So don't push this point further than you already have you haven't got the foresight to back up anything you say from the heart, rather than head.


                  Originally posted by WESS View Post
                  Margarito was busted for plaster, banned and hadn't won a fight in years. It was an all new low of lows for Pac to not only give him a pay day but to cherry pick a washed up past prime losing bum that was proven a coward and a cheat. Worst fight of Pac's career until he decided to fight Mosley. Another washed up has been who couldn't even beat Sergio Mora (and wasn't "too good" anymore to duck).
                  Much more dangerous fighting men 3 divisions higher than yourself than training in the gym like FLoyd with no fights. So now its a cherry pick for Pac fighting someone 3 divisions higher, yet for Floyd, he ducked Margarito whether Margarito had titles or not. Floyd would never go near Margarito.
                  The standard for Pac is far higher than Floyd.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 12-30-2013, 06:15 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
                    Again, you are getting desperate. Its a cherry pick for Floyd as he bloated JMM up 2 divisions. At the time it was considered a good comeback fight for Floyd though. But once Floyd beat him, Floyd fans got carried away boasting about how Floyd did.
                    You talk about how Bradley didn't have a WW resume and it wasn't sure how well hed perform? Well we didn't know how JMM could perform at 140 let alone 147. And we know hatton didn't do so well at 147. So again Floyd is a charity case and Pac is held to a far higher standard than Floyd and his fans can ever dream of.




                    You don't understand the fact, that Hatton had proven himself not to be able to perform at his best at 147 prior to fighting Floyd. Bradley had not proven himself to be bad at 147. Do you understsand that? On the contrary most people expected Bradley to be able to do it at 147 the big lump. You are just being a pessimist and trying to downgrade Pac out of fear and are being petty beyond the call of duty. Bradley said hed perform better at 147 and he knows better than you im afraid to say. He was spot on. Reality hurts doesn't it.




                    Guerrero is a cherry pick for Floyd. Not a p4p fighter and not dangerous. Pac would have stopped him. Rios was a comeback fight for Pac and doesn't undo Pacs work prior to that.



                    Well, he never didn't look solid at WW, unlike Hatton. Bradley said hed do better at 147 so stop arguing over nothing. People don't automatically assume Bradley wouldn't do well. No one knew hatton wouldn't be so good at 147, until he struggled against Collazo, and even said himself he cant do it at 147 before actually even fighting Floyd. So don't push this point further than you already have you haven't got the foresight to back up anything you say from the heart, rather than head.




                    Much more dangerous fighting men 3 divisions higher than yourself than training in the gym like FLoyd with no fights. So now its a cherry pick for Pac fighting someone 3 divisions higher, yet for Floyd, he ducked Margarito whether Margarito had titles or not. Floyd would never go near Margarito.
                    The standard for Pac is far higher than Floyd.
                    Full of opinions and contradictions that does zero justice for your pathetic argument. You keep spinning in circles guy. You're confusing yourself with all the contradictions that you completely went off topic and started rambling.

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                    • Floyd Mayweather vs Amir Khan - potentially 2014s biggest ppv!

                      I don't know about you guys but I'm very excited about this fight,
                      Amir is young, fast, strong and very tough.

                      He's the underdog but has the speed to trouble Floyd, this kid already humiliated maidana. Why would Floyd fight him?
                      It's also common knowledge that Amir did give manny trouble on many occasions in sparring down at the wild card.

                      Great fight, I can't wait.

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