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Possible Matchup: Amir Khan vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. Prediction & Discussion Thread
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Last edited by kiaba360; 12-26-2013, 05:22 PM.
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Con is an easy KO for JR. I won't be watching it, I will NOT pay for this garbage.
IF jr will fight a real contender like Pac, Maidana, Ruslan PROV, Thurman or Bradley then I would be happy to pay to see him get KO'd.
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Originally posted by kiaba360 View PostIt seems like Floyd wants to have a balance between getting the opponent who's earned the opportunity and who's the most profitable. Canelo fit both, but the choice won't be that easy this time around. I'm fine with Khan/Mayweather, not because he's such a good opponent, but because that means we could get match-ups with Thurman/Maidana/Garcia/Guerrero which makes for more compelling TV. Mayweather vs. any realistic WW will most likely be one-sided, so why not just match Khan with him? He's more or less a showcase opponent who could give Floyd some trouble.
I would much rather see Mayweather Maidana than Khan. It's a legitimate WW fight with a unification.
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Originally posted by WESS View PostI don't see him giving him any trouble after the first round or two. In a way I would love to see Floyd retire the bum in an embarrassing fashion. A look good fight for Floyd would be fun but I'm really not that interested. Maybe a few years ago when people claimed Floyd would duck Khan but now (like I said years ago) Khan is a joke.
I would much rather see Mayweather Maidana than Khan. It's a legitimate WW fight with a unification.
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Originally posted by WESS View PostI don't see him giving him any trouble after the first round or two. In a way I would love to see Floyd retire the bum in an embarrassing fashion. A look good fight for Floyd would be fun but I'm really not that interested. Maybe a few years ago when people claimed Floyd would duck Khan but now (like I said years ago) Khan is a joke.
I would much rather see Mayweather Maidana than Khan. It's a legitimate WW fight with a unification.
In reality, there is a big jump from beating someone like Broner and Floyd so NO, for me it's not enough to say that it's legit.
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostI was reading and saying "I'm actually agreeing with WESS" .... until I read the last line. You know that pressure may sway this towards a Maidana fight because, like you said, at least Floyd can say "Maidana is a WW champ" .... but that doesn't mean that Maidana is legit. You may say by Floyd's standards of cherry picking it's legit but it's not a risky fight where you would give Maidana much of a chance.
In reality, there is a big jump from beating someone like Broner and Floyd so NO, for me it's not enough to say that it's legit.
Broner is just part of it. Miadana is a legitimate WW for anyone fighting at WW. He is on a 4 fight win streak with 3 by way of KO/TKO. He is a TOP contender and just because you believe Floyd beats him doesn't change that. No matter who Floyd fights, the majority of people will say Floyd will win. That doesn't change the fact the opposition is legit. It just demonstrates how high the standards are placed on Floyd and just how good people regard Floyd to be.
Overall you're giving Floyd credit rather than trying to discredit him. It would be one thing if we were talking about Khan, but were not. Miadana is a legit WW even IF he won't be the favorite to win. Just remember, Pac was never the favorite to win either. Let alone most of Floyd's recent opposition.
Outside of two Top Rank WW's, this is the best WW fight to be made and it's miles better than a Khan fight even though I believe a Khan fight would be slightly more entertaining because a KO/TKO would be expected and highly plausible.
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Originally posted by WESS View PostBroner is just part of it. Miadana is a legitimate WW for anyone fighting at WW. He is on a 4 fight win streak with 3 by way of KO/TKO. He is a TOP contender and just because you believe Floyd beats him doesn't change that. No matter who Floyd fights, the majority of people will say Floyd will win. That doesn't change the fact the opposition is legit. It just demonstrates how high the standards are placed on Floyd and just how good people regard Floyd to be.
Overall you're giving Floyd credit rather than trying to discredit him. It would be one thing if we were talking about Khan, but were not. Miadana is a legit WW even IF he won't be the favorite to win. Just remember, Pac was never the favorite to win either. Let alone most of Floyd's recent opposition.
Outside of two Top Rank WW's, this is the best WW fight to be made and it's miles better than a Khan fight even though I believe a Khan fight would be slightly more entertaining because a KO/TKO would be expected and highly plausible.
BUT if Floyd says that he so great then why not fight "riskier" fights?
There has always been someone better out there compared to who he actually fought. You Floyd fans, just as you did here, are saying "Except for those 2 or 3 fighters, Floyd is fighting the next tier of fighters and that is good enough for us Floyd fans" and even though I don't buy that excuse, no it's not always a Top Rank fighter who was calling him out.
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Originally posted by WESS View PostHe is a TOP contender and just because you believe Floyd beats him doesn't change that. No matter who Floyd fights, the majority of people will say Floyd will win. That doesn't change the fact the opposition is legit. It just demonstrates how high the standards are placed on Floyd and just how good people regard Floyd to be.
Overall you're giving Floyd credit rather than trying to discredit him. It would be one thing if we were talking about Khan, but were not. Miadana is a legit WW even IF he won't be the favorite to win. Just remember, Pac was never the favorite to win either. Let alone most of Floyd's recent opposition.
Pac is a much harder worker than Floyd, fighting every 3 times to floyds once almost and people sstill expect more from Pac, whilst Floyd can fight the Ortiz and Guerreros of this world
If Maidana fought Pac it would be legit, but people might just say Maidana was made to order for pac.Last edited by hugh grant; 12-29-2013, 06:23 PM.
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Originally posted by hugh grant View PostTHe standards for Pac is higher than for Floyd. Pac is also favourite against everyone. Hed probably be favoourite against JMM in a rematch even though he just got koed by him. Hed be favourite against bradley even though he just lost to bradley supposedly.
Pac is a much harder worker than Floyd, fighting every 3 times to floyds once almost and people sstill expect more from Khan, whilst Floyd can fight the Ortiz and Guerreros of this world
If Maidana fought Pac it would be legit, but people might just say Maidana was made to order for pac.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostNo they are not. Pac got way more credit for his victories against Hatton, De La Hoya, Marquez, and Cotto. And he never gets criticized for cherry picks like Rios but Floyd gets called a cherry picker for fighting guys like Canelo, a fighter the fans wanted to see him fight.
Pac fights more than 2 times as often and as much as Floyd. Since Floyd returned all he could muster victories over were Ortiz, Guerrero and CW Canelo.
Floyd hardly fights so surely he can deliver more than that? Pac fought JMM and Bradley to top off his seven year stretch of fights. How has Floyd done nearly even quarter of what Pac has done?
Floyd is a demon trainer, but he does little actual work that counts in the ring.
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