Possible Matchup: Amir Khan vs. Floyd Mayweather Jr. Prediction & Discussion Thread

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  • kiaba360
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    #391
    Originally posted by WESS
    He/Showtime cares about who will bring in the money which is why Khan is even a plausible fight due to his fan base in the UK. I think Maidana just became plausible because he did very well TV numbers with Broner and there is a story that will sell in the build up.

    Certain "fans" today, no matter who he fights, Champions or some no name fighter, will cry either way. At least until he loses which is why people want him to fight Middle Weights, Super Middle Weights and Light Heavyweights.
    It seems like Floyd wants to have a balance between getting the opponent who's earned the opportunity and who's the most profitable. Canelo fit both, but the choice won't be that easy this time around. I'm fine with Khan/Mayweather, not because he's such a good opponent, but because that means we could get match-ups with Thurman/Maidana/Garcia/Guerrero which makes for more compelling TV. Mayweather vs. any realistic WW will most likely be one-sided, so why not just match Khan with him? He's more or less a showcase opponent who could give Floyd some trouble.
    Last edited by kiaba360; 12-26-2013, 05:22 PM.

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      #392
      Con is an easy KO for JR. I won't be watching it, I will NOT pay for this garbage.

      IF jr will fight a real contender like Pac, Maidana, Ruslan PROV, Thurman or Bradley then I would be happy to pay to see him get KO'd.

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        #393
        Originally posted by kiaba360
        It seems like Floyd wants to have a balance between getting the opponent who's earned the opportunity and who's the most profitable. Canelo fit both, but the choice won't be that easy this time around. I'm fine with Khan/Mayweather, not because he's such a good opponent, but because that means we could get match-ups with Thurman/Maidana/Garcia/Guerrero which makes for more compelling TV. Mayweather vs. any realistic WW will most likely be one-sided, so why not just match Khan with him? He's more or less a showcase opponent who could give Floyd some trouble.
        I don't see him giving him any trouble after the first round or two. In a way I would love to see Floyd retire the bum in an embarrassing fashion. A look good fight for Floyd would be fun but I'm really not that interested. Maybe a few years ago when people claimed Floyd would duck Khan but now (like I said years ago) Khan is a joke.

        I would much rather see Mayweather Maidana than Khan. It's a legitimate WW fight with a unification.

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          #394
          Originally posted by WESS
          I don't see him giving him any trouble after the first round or two. In a way I would love to see Floyd retire the bum in an embarrassing fashion. A look good fight for Floyd would be fun but I'm really not that interested. Maybe a few years ago when people claimed Floyd would duck Khan but now (like I said years ago) Khan is a joke.

          I would much rather see Mayweather Maidana than Khan. It's a legitimate WW fight with a unification.
          If he does pick Maidana, then hopefully Thurman can fight Guerrero in the meantime while Garcia fights Paulie. Whether the winners fight each other depends on whether Floyd decides to fight the winner of either match-up.

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            #395
            Originally posted by WESS
            I don't see him giving him any trouble after the first round or two. In a way I would love to see Floyd retire the bum in an embarrassing fashion. A look good fight for Floyd would be fun but I'm really not that interested. Maybe a few years ago when people claimed Floyd would duck Khan but now (like I said years ago) Khan is a joke.

            I would much rather see Mayweather Maidana than Khan. It's a legitimate WW fight with a unification.
            I was reading and saying "I'm actually agreeing with WESS" .... until I read the last line. You know that pressure may sway this towards a Maidana fight because, like you said, at least Floyd can say "Maidana is a WW champ" .... but that doesn't mean that Maidana is legit. You may say by Floyd's standards of cherry picking it's legit but it's not a risky fight where you would give Maidana much of a chance.

            In reality, there is a big jump from beating someone like Broner and Floyd so NO, for me it's not enough to say that it's legit.

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              #396
              Originally posted by ADP02
              I was reading and saying "I'm actually agreeing with WESS" .... until I read the last line. You know that pressure may sway this towards a Maidana fight because, like you said, at least Floyd can say "Maidana is a WW champ" .... but that doesn't mean that Maidana is legit. You may say by Floyd's standards of cherry picking it's legit but it's not a risky fight where you would give Maidana much of a chance.

              In reality, there is a big jump from beating someone like Broner and Floyd so NO, for me it's not enough to say that it's legit.

              Broner is just part of it. Miadana is a legitimate WW for anyone fighting at WW. He is on a 4 fight win streak with 3 by way of KO/TKO. He is a TOP contender and just because you believe Floyd beats him doesn't change that. No matter who Floyd fights, the majority of people will say Floyd will win. That doesn't change the fact the opposition is legit. It just demonstrates how high the standards are placed on Floyd and just how good people regard Floyd to be.

              Overall you're giving Floyd credit rather than trying to discredit him. It would be one thing if we were talking about Khan, but were not. Miadana is a legit WW even IF he won't be the favorite to win. Just remember, Pac was never the favorite to win either. Let alone most of Floyd's recent opposition.

              Outside of two Top Rank WW's, this is the best WW fight to be made and it's miles better than a Khan fight even though I believe a Khan fight would be slightly more entertaining because a KO/TKO would be expected and highly plausible.

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                #397
                Originally posted by WESS
                Broner is just part of it. Miadana is a legitimate WW for anyone fighting at WW. He is on a 4 fight win streak with 3 by way of KO/TKO. He is a TOP contender and just because you believe Floyd beats him doesn't change that. No matter who Floyd fights, the majority of people will say Floyd will win. That doesn't change the fact the opposition is legit. It just demonstrates how high the standards are placed on Floyd and just how good people regard Floyd to be.

                Overall you're giving Floyd credit rather than trying to discredit him. It would be one thing if we were talking about Khan, but were not. Miadana is a legit WW even IF he won't be the favorite to win. Just remember, Pac was never the favorite to win either. Let alone most of Floyd's recent opposition.

                Outside of two Top Rank WW's, this is the best WW fight to be made and it's miles better than a Khan fight even though I believe a Khan fight would be slightly more entertaining because a KO/TKO would be expected and highly plausible.
                "Giving Floyd credit": If you are saying that Floyd is a lot better than Maidana, I would think that you would be agreeing .....

                BUT if Floyd says that he so great then why not fight "riskier" fights?

                There has always been someone better out there compared to who he actually fought. You Floyd fans, just as you did here, are saying "Except for those 2 or 3 fighters, Floyd is fighting the next tier of fighters and that is good enough for us Floyd fans" and even though I don't buy that excuse, no it's not always a Top Rank fighter who was calling him out.

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                  #398
                  Originally posted by WESS
                  He is a TOP contender and just because you believe Floyd beats him doesn't change that. No matter who Floyd fights, the majority of people will say Floyd will win. That doesn't change the fact the opposition is legit. It just demonstrates how high the standards are placed on Floyd and just how good people regard Floyd to be.

                  Overall you're giving Floyd credit rather than trying to discredit him. It would be one thing if we were talking about Khan, but were not. Miadana is a legit WW even IF he won't be the favorite to win. Just remember, Pac was never the favorite to win either. Let alone most of Floyd's recent opposition.
                  THe standards for Pac is higher than for Floyd. Pac is also favourite against everyone. Hed probably be favoourite against JMM in a rematch even though he just got koed by him. Hed be favourite against bradley even though he just lost to bradley supposedly.

                  Pac is a much harder worker than Floyd, fighting every 3 times to floyds once almost and people sstill expect more from Pac, whilst Floyd can fight the Ortiz and Guerreros of this world
                  If Maidana fought Pac it would be legit, but people might just say Maidana was made to order for pac.
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 12-29-2013, 06:23 PM.

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                    #399
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    THe standards for Pac is higher than for Floyd. Pac is also favourite against everyone. Hed probably be favoourite against JMM in a rematch even though he just got koed by him. Hed be favourite against bradley even though he just lost to bradley supposedly.

                    Pac is a much harder worker than Floyd, fighting every 3 times to floyds once almost and people sstill expect more from Khan, whilst Floyd can fight the Ortiz and Guerreros of this world
                    If Maidana fought Pac it would be legit, but people might just say Maidana was made to order for pac.
                    No they are not. Pac got way more credit for his victories against Hatton, De La Hoya, Marquez, and Cotto. And he never gets criticized for cherry picks like Rios but Floyd gets called a cherry picker for fighting guys like Canelo, a fighter the fans wanted to see him fight.

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                      #400
                      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                      No they are not. Pac got way more credit for his victories against Hatton, De La Hoya, Marquez, and Cotto. And he never gets criticized for cherry picks like Rios but Floyd gets called a cherry picker for fighting guys like Canelo, a fighter the fans wanted to see him fight.
                      Yes they are the standards for Pac are much, much higher than for Floyd. Pac fights non stop for 7 years his last 3 fights were JMMx2 and Bradley and took a easy test fight in Rios who happens to be ranked a p4p fighter alongside Guerrero in the 20's.

                      Pac fights more than 2 times as often and as much as Floyd. Since Floyd returned all he could muster victories over were Ortiz, Guerrero and CW Canelo.

                      Floyd hardly fights so surely he can deliver more than that? Pac fought JMM and Bradley to top off his seven year stretch of fights. How has Floyd done nearly even quarter of what Pac has done?
                      Floyd is a demon trainer, but he does little actual work that counts in the ring.

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