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  • #51
    Originally posted by zzat View Post
    Far from it.
    Yes, Bradley won but it was close and the split is not controversial. I thought Bradley boxed very well in the middle rounds and his defence was very good but with all that, this was not a boxing lesson.

    Does anyone know when Bradley's contract expires with Top Rank?
    I'd like to see any of these fights:

    Bradley vs Guerrero
    Bradley vs Khan
    Bradley vs Broner
    Bradley vs Danny Garcia
    Bradley vs Mayweather
    Too bad Bradley won't get any of those fights because all those fighters are under Golden Boy. Be prepared to see Tim sit on the shelf or fight Top Rank duds for a while.

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    • #52
      marquez will certainly ask for a rematch but bighead will not oblige...marquez will brag to the whole world that he won against bighead...

      he's a sore loser...marquez will always be a sore loser.

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      • #53
        Bradley outboxed Marquez but he didn't give Marquez a boxing lesson like Mayweather

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        • #54
          A boxing lesson?? Stop.. A boxing lesson is when you outclass a guy that wasn't the case last night the Fight was trash and kinda hard to watch and disappointing I love pure boxing but that wasn't it neither fighter really impressed me Bradley got the victory but I don't any more or less of him same goes for Marquez

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          • #55
            It's funny how after the Pacman KO and before this fight everyone was saying Marquez was "Young" for his age. He's 40 but he's a Young 40.

            Now all the Bradley haters Ohhh he beat a "40 year old Marquez". "He beat and old guy".... Haters gone Hate

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            • #56
              Bradley doesn't give boxing lessons... Bradley just doesn't give up and it's hard to say he lost a fight or not. Tim acts according to whatever style he meets...

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              • #57
                Bradley won the fight but people act like this fight makes his last 2 wins legit. Let me ask something, if the knockdown in the 1st rd was scored would Ruslan have been the winner? Also there is no way in hell Bradley won more than 4rds in the Pac fight no matter how many times someone watches it. Last nights chess match couldve went either way imo, a SD over a 40yo isnt a HOF ticket sorry. Problem with Bradley is, he hasnt truly BEAT any of his last opponents. He is the champ so you have to give it to him but he isnt great.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Rome-By-Ko View Post
                  I totally don't agree but hey to each it's own..

                  Rds were not hard to score imo and Marquez only land solid flush shots a few times..The more effective punches throughout the fight was from Bradley clearly..In all honesty,I felt it was a master class by Bradley..He showed to be a far better boxer then the great Marquez..

                  I also hate the whole Bradley was younger bit..It's lame and takes away from both fighters imo,Marquez was ready.go look at early in this thread and in the weigh in thread..He just meet the better fighter is all..Let's not make excuses for Marquez who imo is a great warrior..
                  There is so much wrong with this post. You think that because Bradley won he's suddenly better than Marquez? Styles make fights. If Bradley is a "far better boxer" than Marquez, how come Marquez fought 3 close fights with the great MP and knocked him out once when Bradley got outboxed by Pacquiao (who was arguably disinterested and a year or two past prime) with relative ease? The age theory does have some credit I think. Marquez looked quite old in the Pac fight where Pac, who has showed a decline himself in the past few years, was landing with much greater frequency than he had in their previous fights and made Marquez look old. We must remember that Marquez is 40. He is not like Hopkins/Mayweather as he gets hit quite a lot. He doesn't know how to clinch and goes back in straight lines towards the ropes and eats punches in virtually all his fights. He's a smart counterpuncher with outstanding offense but defensively he's nowhere near as good as he's given credit for. This doesn't bode well for a 40 year old.
                  Last edited by stefl14; 10-13-2013, 07:07 AM.

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                  • #59
                    Ok, here we go:
                    My take on the Bradley/Marquez fight.

                    Short answer: I had it 116-112, for Bradley. There is no argument for this decision.

                    Long answer: This was a fight where discipline and patience would rule out. More importantly, this was a fight that was more for Marquez to win than it was for Bradley to lose. Once you realize this it makes the outcome much easier to understand and accept. The biggest problem that most people had going into this fight, majority of the press included, is that they were judging the possible outcome on the previous fights of the two challengers: Pacquiao vs. Marquez, and Bradley vs. Provo***ov. If you were basing your pre-conceived notions on those outcomes then you would have favored Marquez.

                    But, what I saw in the Pacquiao/Marquez fight was a fighter who was on his way to being badly beaten and possibly knocked out land the perfect shot at the perfect time in order to win. For me, last night’s outcome completely cements this notion. Pacquiao would have won via referee stoppage in another two or three rounds sans the perfect shot as Marquez was getting outboxed and tagged with hard shots leading into Round 6. The rest is history.

                    As for the Bradley/Provodnikov fight, we saw a fighter fighting a fight he didn’t have to fight and still come out on top the hard way. In that fight, Bradley was seriously damaged but still found the will to win.

                    In their previous fights Marquez showed power and Bradley showed will. Would one be needed to outdo the other? That’s the real question that should have been asked by folks going into this fight, and it was what I used to make my prediction.

                    Prior to the fight I had spoken about this and was very in saying that if Bradley remained in his game and boxed from the outside, and remained free from the brawl he would come out on top. And that’s exactly what happened. I think Marquez felt Bradley would offer up many openings with brawling tactics, that Bradley would be the come-forward and attack fighter seen against Provodnikov. And that could have been the case, had Marquez forced that action. Unfortunately, this has never really been Marquez’s cup of tea. He tried it once before, against Mayweather, but that’s a different story for a different day. In this fight he should have always been the aggressor but failed to take on that role. We only saw glimpses of it in the last two or three rounds, but by then it was too little too late.

                    There was a time, early in the fight when there was a minor exchange and Bradley seemed to get the better of it. What happened next is what basically defined the tone of the fight. Marquez stood, gloves shaking with anticipation, waiting for Bradley come at him again, like had against Provodnikov. Instead of that, what we got was Bradley standing down and going back to his plan of boxing from the outside. The crowd boo’d a little bit, but one fighter did what he had to do at that point by controlling aggression (Bradley) and one fighter didn’t by controlling his aggression (Marquez). The majority of the fight went along these lines. The very few times Marquez took the initiative and pressured Bradley he looked good. Unfortunately, he was to be cursed with the “too little, too late” syndrome.

                    So, again, I agree with Sergio. There was no robbery here. Bradley fought the right fight against Marquez and Marquez fought the wrong fight against Bradley, plain and simple. The underlying question/premise I posed earlier was: In their previous fights Marquez showed power and Bradley showed will. Would one be needed to outdo the other?

                    The answer? No. As it turned out, controlled aggression was the ultimate factor in this fight. Both fighters had it, and only one would benefit from it…and that someone was Timothy Bradley.

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                    • #60
                      A win for Bradley but it was very unimpressive.

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