What makes 60-80's fighers so much better than today?

[Fists_of_Fury]

there were more elite fighters at one time. right now there is floyd and manny and marquez a few steps below.

a loss wasnt a death sentence and they fought tougher guys more ofter not as much ducking

it took longer to get to the top, more tests to prove that u were worthy

and due to reasons i listed and many more the old school guys developed better tecnique

a guy lamotta considered a brawler in his day had an enormous skillset great jab understandig of style

the pressure fighters/infighters/brawlers/swarmers used to know how to fight pure boxers and the pure boxers used to have tougher chalengers to prove there skiil against

after really studying old fights and new fights with no bias u can clearly see a skill gap

Name all these elite fighters who fought each other especially in the lightweight-middleweight classes please

[gatorDelux]

Name all these elite fighters who fought each other especially in the lightweight-middleweight classes please

in my second post i said starting in the 30s

so.... uf got kid chocolate, canzoneri, lou ambers, hmmerin hank, barney ross etc

graziano, zale, lamotta, srr, fulmer, basilio,....

gavilan, demarco, ....

and thats juust the top of my head

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

To me the answer is very simple, why the fighters were better skill wise back then.

1) Better trainers~teachers (It is better to learn from a master than a apprentice)

2) Larger talent pool~more pros (The more people doing something the better the talent)

3) The fighters fought more often (The more you do it the better you get)

Pretty simple really.

[Fists_of_Fury]

Duran, Hearns, Leonard, and Hagler are the most known who fought everybody yet everyone forgets guys like Aaron Pryor who they didn't. These guys are most known for fighting really each other. Did Hearns, Leonard, Duran, etc... fight Pryor? Why didn't Leonard fight Pryor after being called out by the smaller man? Why didn't Hearns fight Pryor again since the guy was boasting about whooping his ass before? Why are only fighters nowadays ridiculed for ducking and ****? There is only a select group of guys around this "golden" time period that were good... they weren't that damn plentiful like everyone keeps saying lol. I can list a lot of great fighters from the 90's to today that competed in the same weights these guys did that I feel are somewhat comparable. These older fighters do not look invincible compared to fighters from the 90's to today. I'd love to see any of the horseman go up against these fighters in their respective classes: Chavez Sr, Pernell Whittaker, Oscar De La Hoya, Felix Trinidad, Ike Quartey, Shane Mosley, Bernard Hopkins, Roy Jones Jr, Miguel Cotto, Pacquaio, James Toney, Floyd Mayweather Jr... lots of good fights at lots of weights and varying results of winners imo.

[Fists_of_Fury]

in my second post i said starting in the 30s

so.... uf got kid chocolate, canzoneri, lou ambers, hmmerin hank, barney ross etc

graziano, zale, lamotta, srr, fulmer, basilio,....

gavilan, demarco, ....

and thats juust the top of my head

So you perceive these guys to be elite technically compared to todays fighters? Have you actually seen tape of these men?

[Fetta]

The aren't better just older. Greats in their time were great but compare them to current fighters and the greats always win fantasy fights. If you choose the other way around then you don't know boxing and are a fanboy.

In 10 years same will be said with the current crop of greats compared to the new generation of the time.

[gatorDelux]

So you perceive these guys to be elite technically compared to todays fighters? Have you actually seen tape of these men?

yea ive seen the tape

thats why i said it

what dumb question

[JaYDeuce11]

It was just crazy times during that period with racism, the war, and boxing being as big as the nba back then...so of course those guys grew up tougher, and the hard way. they wanted to fight everyone, and not just 2 times or once a year

[lx!!]

They weren't drama queens back then. If 2 guys wanted to fight they fought, fought for legacy & name not for "0" & money. Of coarse they got paid, but legacy was more important. They were just tougher back then.

[croz]

It's nostalgia. The people who say Frazier would beat Wlad are no better than the people who think Tyson was one of the best boxers ever. Everyone says my day was better than your day.