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  • radioraheem
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    #41
    Originally posted by SoggyLungs
    not 100% of the time like VADA does...
    Here are the results from Mayweather vs Cotto, from the USADA website. They clearly say that all samples were tested with CIR.

    http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather

    All urine samples were analyzed for EPO and by CIR, and all blood samples were tested for the presence of hGH. Collections were conducted using a balanced test distribution schedule, and with no allowances for black-out or cut-off dates.*

    So much for your nonsense theory from Conte that USADA doesn't do CIR on all samples.

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      #42
      Originally posted by SoggyLungs
      so why not golden boy use VADA then?? VADA is far more inexpensive to do than USADA...and if their testing protocols are EXACTLY the same (which they aren't because their use of CIR testing differs from USADA like i mentioned already but you continue to ignore) then why doesn't golden boy use VADA?? seems kind of ****** to spend more money on something when you can get the same results at a cheaper price with VADA....

      hmmm.....maybe USADA is more willing to carry out shady activity for golden boy....

      but i guess u should keep watching your baseball...you're pretty awful at debating with anyways...
      or maybe the contract with USADA in place and don't want to break it.

      the only reason you side with VADA is because Lampley said it on fight game and manny is using it.

      Goodman's relationship with HBO prior has the same appearance of impropriety as USADA and GBP.
      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 10-07-2013, 03:12 PM.

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      • Bermuda
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        #43
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        Here are the results from Mayweather vs Cotto, from the USADA website. They clearly say that all samples were tested with CIR.

        http://www.usada.org/cotto-mayweather

        All urine samples were analyzed for EPO and by CIR, and all blood samples were tested for the presence of hGH. Collections were conducted using a balanced test distribution schedule, and with no allowances for black-out or cut-off dates.*

        So much for your nonsense theory from Conte that USADA doesn't do CIR on all samples.
        USADA even admitted that they use CIR testing strategically aka not all the time...for teh mayweather vs cotto fight they used it on all samples, but they do it for 100% of samples collected for every fight for every fighter?? again they use it strategically...

        http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...nte-assertions
        "...CIR is an important tool in our toolbox and we use it strategically and effectively."

        did they use CIR testing on 100% of the samples for all of floyd's fights?? why they just single out the cotto fight?
        Last edited by Bermuda; 10-07-2013, 03:15 PM.

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        • Humean
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          #44
          Originally posted by Big Dunn
          a journalist would be independent and investigate to see if they are true and report back, not attack Mayweather and his alliances over doping, right?

          Hauser was a journalist, now he is an employee of HBO and the TR sponsored website.

          Thats far worse than Ben Thompson and Ronnie Nathanielz and those 2 guys have little to no credibility here on NSB.
          Every journalist is likely to gain connections, one way or another, that does not mean that what they write is incorrect. By your standards nobody could ever be objective, or write the truth about anything for everyone has interests that can cloud their writing.

          Hauser is also more of an author than a typical journalist, I have no idea about his financial situation but it is possible that he doesn't even 'need' to be a boxing writer. That is just spectulation on my part to illustrate that he may be a lot more 'independent' than you are making out.

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            #45
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            or maybe the contract with USADA in place and don't want to break it.

            the only reason you side with VADA is because Lampley said it on fight game and manny is using it.

            Goodman's relationship with HBO prior has the same appearance of impropriety as USADA and GBP.
            lol the only reason i side with VADA is because VADA hasn't been pulling off shady **** in boxing.....oh no! it has to be because i side with lampley and because pac is now using it ...even though i was for VADA before pac started using it and even though i could care less about lampley...that must be it! lmao.....

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            • Marvellous1
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              #46
              Originally posted by SoggyLungs
              USADA even admitted that they use CIR testing strategically aka not all the time...for teh mayweather vs cotto fight they used it on all samples, but they do it for 100% of samples collected for every fight for every fighter?? again they use it strategically...

              http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/box...nte-assertions
              "...CIR is an important tool in our toolbox and we use it strategically and effectively."
              Interesting....... does "strategically" definitley mean "not all the time" whenever you use the term or is that your interpretation? There's proof that they don't do it all the time?

              Also, are you changing your previous assertion that USADA DON'T do CIR testing ever and VADA does, to they both do but you believe one does more than the other?

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                #47
                Originally posted by SoggyLungs
                lol the only reason i side with VADA is because VADA hasn't been pulling off shady **** in boxing.....oh no! it has to be because i side with lampley and because pac is now using it ...even though i was for VADA before pac started using it and even though i could care less about lampley...that must be it! lmao.....
                I will take you at your word.

                I would hope then that you would agree with my point about the appearance of impropriety.

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                • Bermuda
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Marvellous1
                  Interesting....... does "strategically" definitley mean "not all the time" whenever you use the term or is that your interpretation? There's proof that they don't do it all the time?

                  Also, are you changing your previous assertion that USADA DON'T do CIR testing ever and VADA does, to they both do but you believe one does more than the other?
                  did they use CIR testing 100% of the time for the mosley fight? ortiz fight??

                  again they use it strategically...

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                  • radioraheem
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                    Can you link to that interview?
                    Here you go, Paulie specifically talks about USADA testing him, and how it's a tedious procedure, kind of a pain.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Humean
                      Every journalist is likely to gain connections, one way or another, that does not mean that what they write is incorrect. By your standards nobody could ever be objective, or write the truth about anything for everyone has interests that can cloud their writing.

                      Hauser is also more of an author than a typical journalist, I have no idea about his financial situation but it is possible that he doesn't even 'need' to be a boxing writer. That is just spectulation on my part to illustrate that he may be a lot more 'independent' than you are making out.
                      Its like a PHD candidate whose research supports the best interests of the company bankrolling the think tank s/he writes for. Thats the reason they are employed.

                      Unfortunately, the standards for blogs are not the same as newspapers. I think we can agree on that.

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