Lampley Thinks JMM Is On PEDs

[Scott9945]

What a bunch of silly excuses! This whole thread is just a bunch of Pac apologists making typical fanboy excuses without one shred of evidence. And their proof? "Marquez was more muscular" lol!!!!

Many people find it su****ious when a veteran fighter approaching 40 looks and fights better than ever before at his highest weight, while being advised by a convicted cheater. Proof and evidence is nice, but lets not be naïve. It was no coincidence when Bonds and Clemens did the same thing in baseball.

[walrusthewill]

Hausers been on a crusade lately

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Many people find it su****ious when a veteran fighter approaching 40 looks and fights better than ever before at his highest weight, while being advised by a convicted cheater. Proof and evidence is nice, but lets not be naïve. It was no coincidence when Bonds and Clemens did the same thing in baseball.

But it's not definative in anyway shape or form. Casually mentioning it like it's 100% true is ***ing ******. Like I said if Marquez had something to hide why would he work with a guy who screams PED? That would be the dumbest thing ever! It would be so obvious and when the rumors are so rampent why would he even try to get away with it when he's under a magnifying glass by everyone. Clemens and Bonds got away with it because nobody knew who Angel Heredia or victor Conte where. There is a very distingct diffrence from then and now.

I just have one question for you! Who was Marquez strength and conditioning coach before Heredia?

[SplitSecond]

But it's not definative in anyway shape or form. Casually mentioning it like it's 100% true is ***ing ******. Like I said if Marquez had something to hide why would he work with a guy who screams PED? That would be the dumbest thing ever! It would be so obvious and when the rumors are so rampent why would he even try to get away with it when he's under a magnifying glass by everyone. Clemens and Bonds got away with it because nobody knew who Angel Heredia or victor Conte where. There is a very distingct diffrence from then and now.

I just have one question for you! Who was Marquez strength and conditioning coach before Heredia?

marquez "suppossedly" didn't know angel hernandez was infamous PED supplier angel heredia, until the friendly neighbourhood former ped supplier himself vic. conte pointed out "hey, i know that guy, his name isn't angel hernandez, that's angel heredia, the PED supplier"

maybe they thought everything was under wraps and concealed?

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[SD180sx]

I don't think JMM is on PEDS but he has been looking Huck'ish lately

[SplitSecond]

Victor Conte is Nonito's strength and conditioning coach. I'm just saying I personally don't think he's on anything but anyone with a brain can twist things around and make it seem like Nonito is on drugs no matter how many tests he passes. It's for this exact reason that I do not accuse anybody of any kind of cheating unless there is actual proof. When people make accusations just because they have a conditioning coach that gets results out of their fighters it makes you look ****** and classless.

i feel i can believe conte being clean more than these other guys
One. he tries to push his fighters into year round vada testing(no, he doesn't work for vada or have any affiliation with them WHATSOEVER, he was just someone they consulted once upon a time, along with other guys who have an idea to how the system works and how they could go about catching cheats)

and
Two. he goes after the people he believes are adding to the ped problem with a passion

obviously no proof, you can think he's still dirty as ***, im not saying im 100% sure, but in my opinion i can pull the radar off the guy, for the time being at least

now, i can't believe you are actually comparing donaire to marquez, everyone seems pull some boxer out of the sky and compare it to marquez

oh look, this guy moved up in weight and ko'd this guy
this other guy has/had a former ped supplier in his corner
and this guy has gotten more muscles
this guy is 40 and still going strong
this guy's power improved
etcetera, etcetera

the difference here, is the obvious substantial amount of evidence we have on marquez

marquez seems to fit every requirement to make you 99% sure he's juicing, the other 1% being that he hasn't tested positive yet

if you're not highly su****ious of marquez, then you're obviously not paying attention here, or just lying to yourself

i'd be shocked if marquez isn't roided to the brim, what an atg if not, what a physical specimen

[Boxing Goat]

Yeah but that all BS speculation. Eyeballing someone physique yeah thats not testing positive for a test so it makes all your observations moot.

Im not saying its a fact, its just su****ious is all.

[Hougigo]

Good ole USADA

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i feel i can believe conte being clean more than these other guys
One. he tries to push his fighters into year round vada testing(no, he doesn't work for vada or have any affiliation with them WHATSOEVER, he was just someone they consulted once upon a time, along with other guys who have an idea to how the system works and how they could go about catching cheats)

and
Two. he goes after the people he believes are adding to the ped problem with a passion

obviously no proof, you can think he's still dirty as ***, im not saying im 100% sure, but in my opinion i can pull the radar off the guy, for the time being at least

now, i can't believe you are actually comparing donaire to marquez, everyone seems pull some boxer out of the sky and compare it to marquez

oh look, this guy moved up in weight and ko'd this guy
this other guy has/had a former ped supplier in his corner
and this guy has gotten more muscles
this guy is 40 and still going strong
this guy's power improved
etcetera, etcetera

the difference here, is the obvious substantial amount of evidence we have on marquez

marquez seems to fit every requirement to make you 99% sure he's juicing, the other 1% being that he hasn't tested positive yet

if you're not highly su****ious of marquez, then you're obviously not paying attention here, or just lying to yourself

i'd be shocked if marquez isn't roided to the brim, what an atg if not, what a physical specimen

"substantial amount of evidence we have on Marquez" oh my god what in the *** are you talking about? There is no evidence whatsoever otherwise you would have every major sports outlet reporting it LOL!!! Seriously everything you stated is complete BS. His extra power? He caught Manny flush! FLUSH!!!!!!!!! With a counter shot! Marquez is only considered one of the greatest counter punchers ever lol!!!! Lets also not forget the previous three ***ing wars they had.

Look you are entitled to your opinion but let me ask you this what is more likely? That JMM committed some giant complicated conspiracy that despite the whole world knowing about Angel Heredias past, Cameras and reporters looking at everything, all drug tests passed, pacs own ****** fight with PED acccusations, and zero actual proof he still got away with it?

Or could it just be that pac is Human like everyone else and just got hit perfectly.

Typically the simplest answer is usally the right one.