Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” — That’s (Not) Entertainment

[liuj88]

It was the first time for me to ever go and take a piss in the middle of a round when watching a fight live.

Maybe I'm getting old, but the repetitive clinching and leaning was almost constant. And I gave up.

The harsh point though is Povetkin never made any adjustments. I'm not saying he allowed it, like the referee, of course not but he was unable to do anything to stop it. So he lost end of.

Povetkin did the same thing again and again and again yet it's Vlad catching all the flak. C'mon it's clear after even 5 round the ref isn't going to do anything about it so try something else but he didn't or couldn't. The best he did which was ****, was to arc his right hand even wider.

What I mean is you step with a square defense, dip over your front knee of to the left looking to land an overhand right over the jab of your taller opponent. The result is a sweaty armpit on the back of your neck turned to a UFC guillotine until the ref breaks you up. This happens again and again but you keep doing it until you get more and more tired and weary that after the ref breaks up you for the hundredth time you start taking 1-2s as you look up.

For me it was like bull vs matador in that it was cruel, unfair, unsportsmanlike and was a shame in many ways for all those who payed to watch it.

Klitchko did what he was allowed to get away with. Povetkin performed with the iq of a bull.

Sad day for boxing only because this was a " world heavy championship bout".

Povetkin's and his corner's boxing IQ notwithstanding, Klitschko was much too satisfied with his lean-and-hold technique--shouldn't the stronger/smarter fighter find a way to put the weaker fighter out of his misery? For Klitschko to continue to do what is considered to be unacceptable and unsportsmanlike simply because the referee allows it is no source of pride.

Speaking of the referee, where is the uproar? Am I alone in feeling quite disappointed with the HBO commentators in not expressing more disgust with his repeated inaction?

[Mr. David]

I hear you and agree, but I was making reference to the article stating Pabon is "inconsistent in the ways he [Pabon] stinks at his job".

Pabon is pretty consistent in the way he refs, Abraham v Ward and Haye v Chisora are two of his other efforts. Basically if you need to work on the inside, this guy is a nightmare of Joe Cortez proportions. If you want the fight on the outside, he is the dream ref, just clinch and hey presto you have space to work as Pabon will come in and separate.

Thanks for the comment. My point was that Pabon was all over Huck in his fight with Povetkin whenever he got inside, but was far, far too laissez-faire with Klitschko's tactics on the inside in this one. But yes, he's consistently crap, which was the other point I was making.

Thanks again,
David

[Ravens Fan]

What I don't like is that people bring up that Ali did, so it's okay for anyone to do it. Illegal is illegal. None of them should be allowed to get away with it.

Is that to include Fury? See Cunningham fight for reference.

[baddog]

The horrible referring of Pabon leaves us with the greater question of WHY HAVE A COMMISSION?
If the ref is so inept, would it not be a boxing commissions job to correct the blatant non existent enforcing of THE RULES?
Why would they not instruct Pabon to stop the leaning, holding tactics and give warnings, or take points. They and the Sanctioning Bodies are as much to blame as the Ref

[iNorton]

Bull****. What Wlad supposed to do with Povetkin's low-dropped head? What a **** he supposed to do when Alexandr hanged on Wlad's neck only to survive after hard punches? Regarding referee - why the **** he didn't allow Klitschko to finish Povetking over counting two fictional knock-downs and by so giving Povetkin time to recover?

Author - you are biased POS.

[bojangles1987]

Daggum!

If Hayden did cheat on Wlad, he has no room to speak considering he just spent 36 minutes dry humping another man right in front of her.

[amayseng]

daggum got a mention for his CumpuClinch stats.

haha

God bless him for watching it again, what torture...

I couldnt get through it once...


the guy deserves a reward for being the only human on earth to watch this


**** twice in a lifetime

[luke1979]

Povetkin's and his corner's boxing IQ notwithstanding, Klitschko was much too satisfied with his lean-and-hold technique--shouldn't the stronger/smarter fighter find a way to put the weaker fighter out of his misery? For Klitschko to continue to do what is considered to be unacceptable and unsportsmanlike simply because the referee allows it is no source of pride.

Speaking of the referee, where is the uproar? Am I alone in feeling quite disappointed with the HBO commentators in not expressing more disgust with his repeated inaction?

I agree with you. Whether you look at the ref, klitchko or povetkin the whole thing was piss poor. Vlad deserves all the bad press he's getting. I was pointing the lack of criticism toward Povetkin, after all it takes two to tango.

[Weebler I]

Is that to include Fury? See Cunningham fight for reference.

Well here are your compuclinch stats:

Round One - 1 Fury, 1 Cunningham (2 total)
Round Two - 3 Fury, 3 Cunningham, 2 50/50 (8 total)
Round Three - 7 Fury, 3 Cunningham, 2 50/50 (12 total)
Round Four - 1 Fury, 6 Cunningham, 1 50/50 (8 total)

Fury was point off in round 4 for head use, he stopped clinching

Round Five - 4 Fury, 4 Cunningham, 4 50/50 (12 total)
Round Six - 6 Cunningham, 1 50/50 (7 total)
Round Seven - 2 Fury, 4 Cunningham 1 50/50 (7 total)

Total Clinches: 56 clinches
Fury initiated: 18
Cunningham initiated: 27
50/50 clinches: 11

Summary: this wasn't a very "clinchy" fight at all, and it wasn't a dirty fight either, the only real overt illegal act at the end from Fury just prior to the KO - which appeared to be coming regardless.


On a related note, after watching that I think Haye might be in for more trouble than he thinks.

[Ravens Fan]

Well here are your compuclinch stats:

Round One - 1 Fury, 1 Cunningham (2 total)
Round Two - 3 Fury, 3 Cunningham, 2 50/50 (8 total)
Round Three - 7 Fury, 3 Cunningham, 2 50/50 (12 total)
Round Four - 1 Fury, 6 Cunningham, 1 50/50 (8 total)

Fury was point off in round 4 for head use, he stopped clinching

Round Five - 4 Fury, 4 Cunningham, 4 50/50 (12 total)
Round Six - 6 Cunningham, 1 50/50 (7 total)
Round Seven - 2 Fury, 4 Cunningham 1 50/50 (7 total)

Total Clinches: 56 clinches
Fury initiated: 18
Cunningham initiated: 27
50/50 clinches: 11

Summary: this wasn't a very "clinchy" fight at all, and it wasn't a dirty fight either, the only real overt illegal act at the end from Fury just prior to the KO - which appeared to be coming regardless.


On a related note, after watching that I think Haye might be in for more trouble than he thinks.

I have to ask are you a slightly obsessed person? I guess you also didn't mean it when you said illegal was illegal and no one should get away with it, right? Therefor Fury gets a pass on a blatant foul because he most likely would have knocked him out anyways. I just have to ask are you actually reading what you are saying?