The great ali clenched and held more than wladimir K so why do people pretend hes the greatest of all time and anyone else who does it is a bumb
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So why when anyone else does it they are boring clenchers wlad atleat gets knockouts and knock downs way more often im not questioning the abilities of ali but people are just biased for some reasonComment
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Ali did not lean on his opponents though and he also did things like this in between:
[IMG]http://i74.***********.com/albums/i248/DuggerMan/joe-has-ali-out-on-his-feet_o_GIFSoupcom.gif[/IMG]
^Look how Ali uses the Clinch compared to that CRAP that Wlad was doing yesterday
Not only that but he also did things like that in between:


Don't ever put ***in Wlad in the same sentence as Ali...EVER! Ali used the clinch but you cannot find any video of Ali in the Middle of the ring just Clinching and Leaning on a guy for an entire round. Ali would at least roll punches and then grab his opponent to disrupt his offense then release when the ref says break
While Wlad, Grabs, Hold and Lean!Comment
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Ali clenched a whole lot he also countered and made opponents miss and pay he is not among my favorites to watch either but Wlad either clenches or backs up with his hands out to keep the distance there is no defense and no counters at all he's a skilless and a clueless fighterComment
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Why on earth do some people say that Vitali is better than Wlad not just the chin but he actually boxes occasionallyComment
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/thread......ali did not lean on his opponents though and he also did things like this in between:
[img]http://i74.***********.com/albums/i248/duggerman/joe-has-ali-out-on-his-feet_o_gifsoupcom.gif[/img]
^look how ali uses the clinch compared to that crap that wlad was doing yesterday
not only that but he also did things like that in between:


don't ever put ***in wlad in the same sentence as ali...ever! Ali used the clinch but you cannot find any video of ali in the middle of the ring just clinching and leaning on a guy for an entire round. Ali would at least roll punches and then grab his opponent to disrupt his offense then release when the ref says break
while wlad, grabs, hold and lean!Comment
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every boxer clinches
but nobody does it more or better than wlad
clinching and leaning for wlad is all part of his game plan, he is limited boxer with no inside game thus he leans and grabs to avoid fighting on the inside
ali could fight on the inside, counter, bob and weave
wlad could only dream of being able to do this, I know people want to make excuses for Wlad, but I truly felt sorry for his opponent last night, he was robbed of a fair fightComment
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