How I felt about tonight..

[Hougigo]

Cotto looked great, hope he fights Sergio next. Crawford fight was boring as hell. Wladimir vs Povetkin was garbage. Can't wait for next week and Alvarado Ruslan is gonna be brutal.

More than capable of happening and Sergio said he wanted a name... only big things to worry about is money/location and weight. Sergios been saying he'll go down to 154, don't know how Cotto would feel going full 160....

[Citizen Koba]

More than capable of happening and Sergio said he wanted a name... only big things to worry about is money/location and weight. Sergios been saying he'll go down to 154, don't know how Cotto would feel going full 160....

It's a tricky one. Obviously for it to be the most lucrative Maravilla s titles would have to be on the line, and Cotto has said he'd like to add a 4th divisional title. Since Sergio's really a JMW himself and has shown signs of fading this could be Cottos chance, and a big money fight for both.

Also for my money a very exciting fight. Cotto trying to close and Maravila using his speed and mobility to keep the distance and lauch lightening sallies (if he's still got it in him).

Martinez' team have essentially said they want to do Cotto (though weight unspecified) then Golovkin. From their POV 154 might make more sense as they don't want to risk the lineal, but then is that as worthwhile for Cotto or as lucrative?

At 160 however there's the risk of Cotto beating a battle-worn Maravilla to take the lineal, firstly reducing Martinez' value to HBO as a GGG opponent and also running the risk of Cotto dropping back down and taking the 12 year BHop lineage with him. This is a scenario HBO don't want if they are pinning hopes on Gena as their MW star. A possible solution is to broadcast the fight as part of a 2 fight deal with the winner vs GGG.

[Hougigo]

It's a tricky one. Obviously for it to be the most lucrative Maravilla s titles would have to be on the line, and Cotto has said he'd like to add a 4th divisional title. Since Sergio's really a JMW himself and has shown signs of fading this could be Cottos chance, and a big money fight for both.

Also for my money a very exciting fight. Cotto trying to close and Maravila using his speed and mobility to keep the distance and lauch lightening sallies (if he's still got it in him).

Martinez' team have essentially said they want to do Cotto (though weight unspecified) then Golovkin. From their POV 154 might make more sense as they don't want to risk the lineal, but then is that as worthwhile for Cotto or as lucrative?

At 160 however there's the risk of Cotto beating a battle-worn Maravilla to take the lineal, firstly reducing Martinez' value to HBO as a GGG opponent and also running the risk of Cotto dropping back down and taking the 12 year BHop lineage with him. This is a scenario HBO don't want if they are pinning hopes on Gena as their MW star. A possible solution is to broadcast the fight as part of a 2 fight deal with the winner vs GGG.

I think they're going to try and make this fight because it's another potential PPV fight to be made between Arum and Sergio's promoter (forgot his name).
They'll also shoot for MW catchweight to help sell it for Cottos legacy as a 4 division champion. Also, if Sergio wins, I don't doubt them having a rematch clause in place for the case of Sergio.

Besides... Sergio will be retiring soon... he's looking for the money fights. It'll hurt him if he loses, but he'll still be able to get the money fights with a rematch or with Golovkin

[Citizen Koba]

I think they're going to try and make this fight because it's another potential PPV fight to be made between Arum and Sergio's promoter (forgot his name).
They'll also shoot for MW catchweight to help sell it for Cottos legacy as a 4 division champion. Also, if Sergio wins, I don't doubt them having a rematch clause in place for the case of Sergio.

Besides... Sergio will be retiring soon... he's looking for the money fights. It'll hurt him if he loses, but he'll still be able to get the money fights with a rematch or with Golovkin

Agreed ^. Maravillas with Lou DiBella BTW, same as Matt Macklin.

Sergios manager /spokesman Lewcowicz said they want Cotto then GGG

http://www.********boxing.com/2013/s...-miguel-cotto/

Quite how it's made and the weight would have to be in a way that keeps the path to the lineal open for GGG IMO, in order to keep HBO happy. Possibly a 2 fight deal, winner facing Golovkin.

A rematch clause for Cotto - Maravilla makes sense too, depending how many fights they feel Maravilla has left in him. Obviously his priority now is to maximise income, but he's still a proud guy and might have a bit of an eye on his legacy.

[Hougigo]

Agreed ^. Maravillas with Lou DiBella BTW, same as Matt Macklin.

Sergios manager /spokesman Lewcowicz said they want Cotto then GGG

http://www.********boxing.com/2013/s...-miguel-cotto/

Quite how it's made and the weight would have to be in a way that keeps the path to the lineal open for GGG IMO, in order to keep HBO happy. Possibly a 2 fight deal, winner facing Golovkin. A rematch clause for Cotto - Maravilla makes sense too, depending how many fights they feel Maravilla has left in him. Obviously his priority now is to maximise income, but he's still a proud guy and might have a bit of an eye on his legacy.

Ugh... don't know why Dana white kept popping up in my mind.
Would be awesome though because they've said they want to fight him and with the MW being depleted and him coming back... next year seems like the best year

[~AK49~]

More than capable of happening and Sergio said he wanted a name... only big things to worry about is money/location and weight. Sergios been saying he'll go down to 154, don't know how Cotto would feel going full 160....

Sergio is a small middleweight, and cotto is a small Jr mw....

In no way shape or form should it be cotto who has to move up. He's the name, the one who brings the money to the table. Its not like Martinez is a big MW, he has to work pretty hard to make 160 fight shape wise. Hell he only walks out to the ring around 167, a few pounds heavier than cotto. Its not unreasonable to ask Sergio to come down if he wants the fight, but is unreasonable to ask cotto to go up, when he is already a small 154 lber. IMO.

[Hougigo]

Sergio is a small middleweight, and cotto is a small Jr mw....

In no way shape or form should it be cotto who has to move up. He's the name, the one who brings the money to the table. Its not like Martinez is a big MW, he has to work pretty hard to make 160 fight shape wise. Hell he only walks out to the ring around 167, a few pounds heavier than cotto. Its not unreasonable to ask Sergio to come down if he wants the fight, but is unreasonable to ask cotto to go up, when he is already a small 154 lber. IMO.

Shouldn't be full, but if the fight happens they'll want it at a catchweight closer to 154, then pull a Floyd and bring up his boxingscene articles about making weight

[Citizen Koba]

Sergio is a small middleweight, and cotto is a small Jr mw....

In no way shape or form should it be cotto who has to move up. He's the name, the one who brings the money to the table. Its not like Martinez is a big MW, he has to work pretty hard to make 160 fight shape wise. Hell he only walks out to the ring around 167, a few pounds heavier than cotto. Its not unreasonable to ask Sergio to come down if he wants the fight, but is unreasonable to ask cotto to go up, when he is already a small 154 lber. IMO.

Cotto has said he wants to add a 4th divisional title though, so it'd have to be over 154 and realistically as close to 160 as possible. If he does wanna go for the MW crown, now might be the time to do it with questionmarks over what Maravilla has left and Sergio being small for MW anyway.

Also having a belt (as well as the lineal title) on the line makes for a more lucrative fight, so I'm guessing he'll be willing to concede the extra Lbs.