When Andre ward fights like that, or hopkins

[Danny Gunz]

It was excessive but the height discrepancy had a lot to do with the insane amount of clinches

[sicko]

Ward and B-Hop don't lean on their opponents either or pull their head down to put them in a headlock

[LeG00N]

the hypocrisy of Hopkins and Ward fans is laughable.

They also despise Carlos Molina

[Lords]

88 to Wlads 150+.. Lets not forget about the throw downs.

[ShoulderRoll]

What's the point of an inside fighter working his way inside if he can just get grabbed and have the ref create distance again?

I reckon either let them both work on the inside and force one to fight out the clinch, or start taking away big points for initiating them constantly

I agree. Let them fight on the inside, if they clinch up then let them fight to get out. Don't break them up so quickly. That way you don't put the inside fighter at a disadvantage.

Steve Smoger is really good at doing this. He should get to ref more of the major fights.

But as fans we need to keep harping about it so that the powers that be finally get the message.

[thuggery]

Excellent question,

Ward initiates 90+ clinches and 10 headbutts, but it's "science" when he does it.