golden boy or top rank which roster would take out the other?

[Check_hooks]

Top Rank - Zou Shiming

Mikey Garcia beats everyone
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Donaire and Rigo beats everyone

Alvarada, Rios, Bradley and Pacquiao destroy everyone on GBP from 140-147

Vanes already beat Lara at 154 but got robbed

Chavez Jr would beat Quillen at 168

I can't think of 1 GBP that would beat a Top Rank fighter in the same weight class

[Citizen Koba]

At 160, it's basically Quillin vs Chavez. Golden Boy wins there.

Lara take out everyone at 154. Golden Boy wins there.

Pacquiao or JMM takes out everyone in Golden Boy's 140 and 147 roster so Top Rank comes out the winner here, although GB generally has the best roster. In a an elimination tournament though, Pac or JMM still win. Mayweather is a free agent.

Don't think either has anyone notable at 135.

Mike Garcia is about take over 130. Top Rank wins there.

Donaire is about to crack some heads at 126. Top Rank wins there.

Rigo has taken over 122. Top Rank wins here.

TR also got Loma at 126

GBP probably BHop at 175

GBP have no Cruiserweights so TRs Zbikowski takes it by default. If new signing Mekhontsev goes as a cruiser that's x2.

At 160, despite an utter shambles of a career, I see TRs Matt Korobov giving anyone problems. He is undoubtedly a better boxer than Kid C or Jacobs, though he really needs to actually prove it against someone better than Ossie Duran or Grady Brewer.

At HW its really Ruiz vs Mitchell or Ortiz (or Wilder, I suppose). For me that has to go to GBP although I kinda give Ruiz a shot 'gainst anyone.

At 168 TR don't seem to have anyone, but I would assume JCC jr is now gonna stay there (or thereabouts) also Korobov can and does sometimes fight at SMW. GBP have Periban or Andrade. I'd call it roughly even honours TBH.

Also Martirosyan already gave Lara a run for his money at 154 So I'd call honours even there too.

[-MEGA-]

At 160, it's basically Quillin vs Chavez. Golden Boy wins there.

Lara take out everyone at 154. Golden Boy wins there.

Pacquiao or JMM takes out everyone in Golden Boy's 140 and 147 roster so Top Rank comes out the winner here, although GB generally has the best roster. In a an elimination tournament though, Pac or JMM still win. Mayweather is a free agent.

Don't think either has anyone notable at 135.

Mike Garcia is about take over 130. Top Rank wins there.

Donaire is about to crack some heads at 126. Top Rank wins there.

Rigo has taken over 122. Top Rank wins here.

Maybe Crawford at 135 I don't think Broner is going back down....

[285Kid]

122- 130

Abner Mares
Daniel Ponce de Leon
Gary Russell (Not officially GBP)
Manuel Avila
Jerry Belmontes
Jamie Kavanagh
Julian Ramirez
Yoandris Salinas
Jayson Velez (Not Officially GBP)



Mikey Garcia
Nonito Donaire
Vasyl Lomachenko
Diego Magdaleno
Juan Manuel Lopez
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Roberto Marroquin
Vic Darchinyan
Nicholas Walters
Evgeny Gradovich
Jessie Magdaleno
Toka Kahn Clary
Roman Martinez
Wilfredo Vazquez

[Rudiamonds]

Top rank has the real fighters golden boy has the superstars

[Citizen Koba]

Top rank has the real fighters golden boy has the superstars

Kinda this^.

You notice at the start of the thread reflexively people are saying GBP, but in reality, when you break it down it's hard not to favour TR. Taking Floyd outta the equation (he's not GBP - despite the strong business ties) skews it even further towards TR.

GBP/SHO have a business model based around PPVs involving a few stars and is very much focused on the US/Mexican target audiences. GBP is only strong in a few divisions mainly 135-154 and even there lack the strength in depth of TR. For this reason they also seem more reluctant to sign fighters that are not readily marketable to their target demographic.

TR is also increasingly capitalising on foreign amateur talent (Shiming, Rigo, Loma, Mekhontsev and the shamefully managed Korobov).

Because SHO and GBP seem to put on the bigger spectacles (many of which are based around the non-GBP FMJ) there seems to be a wide perception that they have the better stable, but closer examination shows this is not the case.

[Weebler I]

Heavyweight:

Andy Ruiz (Top Rank) v Deontay Wilder & Seth Mitchell. (GBP)

Who you got?

Imo Ruiz is only one of the three who can box.

[tachie83]

Top Rank - Zou Shiming

Mikey Garcia beats everyone
.
Donaire and Rigo beats everyone

Alvarada, Rios, Bradley and Pacquiao destroy everyone on GBP from 140-147

Vanes already beat Lara at 154 but got robbed

Chavez Jr would beat Quillen at 168

I can't think of 1 GBP that would beat a Top Rank fighter in the same weight class

Lmfao!!! How could you even mention that clown. He is nothing but garbage robbing the Chinese people of real boxing and their money!!!! He would get demolished by any flyweight with a winning record...

[Citizen Koba]

Heavyweight:

Andy Ruiz (Top Rank) v Deontay Wilder & Seth Mitchell. (GBP)

Who you got?

Imo Ruiz is only one of the three who can box.

GBP also got Luis Ortiz, but he's being brought along barely faster than Wilder.

IMO Wilder will get sparked 'gainst any live body, and Mitchell looked very shaky gainst Banks and Arreola.

Ruiz has looked pretty good and may be the best boxer, but until he's stepped up a bit it's hard to say for sure. Overall I have to give the edge to GBP mainly through having the larger HW stable but TBH neither promotion really shines at HW.

[HBOFanboy]

Top Rank - Zou Shiming

Mikey Garcia beats everyone
.
Donaire and Rigo beats everyone

Alvarada, Rios, Bradley and Pacquiao destroy everyone on GBP from 140-147

Vanes already beat Lara at 154 but got robbed

Chavez Jr would beat Quillen at 168

I can't think of 1 GBP that would beat a Top Rank fighter in the same weight class

Lucas and Danny beat Rios and Alvarado at 140.

Canelo, Angulo and Lara would beat Vanes, you got it backwards, Lara got robbed.

B-hop and Marcus Browne are unoposed at 175

Warren is unopposed at 118

Figueroa would KO Crawford at 135

Now you put Chavez at 168 with Quillin who is a 160 pounder Chavez would not beat Bika, Periban and Dirrell who are the actual 168 pounders

At Heavyweight you got Wilder, Breazale and Mitchell vs Ruiz.