Will PEDinamita Juan Manuel Marquez's age catch up to him against Bradley?

[Fetta]

the su****ion was there...

that's when articles like these were popping up:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...ticle-1.971537

"Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez fight has doping cloud
Marquez coach supplied steroids to Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery"

http://deadspin.com/5857439/what-do-...teroids-dealer

"What Do Usain Bolt And Juan Manuel Marquez Have In Common? They Train With The Same Admitted Steroids Dealer"

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11165.html

"HEREDIA FOOLED THEM ONCE AND SAID HE CAN DO IT AGAIN, SO JUST HOW MUCH HAS HE HELPED MARQUEZ?"

The su****ion but not yhe accusations. Same as nonito for working with conte. After the KO of pac EVERYONE started screaming PED usage. It was the KO.

[dynomyte1444]

lol can't even compare morales fights with the marquez fights....the stoppage in the second fight was from accumulation and sheer exhaustion on morales' part and the 3rd fight morales quit and it was apparent that at that point he was struggling with weight...and pac was reaching his prime (adding more to his game) while morales was declining...

but you can say that the add extra weight helped him with his already potent punching power.

He had hurt pac in the past that is clear to see.

JMM passed all the tests after the fight. He is clean/end of discussion

[Fetta]

the su****ion was there...

that's when articles like these were popping up:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...ticle-1.971537

"Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez fight has doping cloud
Marquez coach supplied steroids to Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery"

http://deadspin.com/5857439/what-do-...teroids-dealer

"What Do Usain Bolt And Juan Manuel Marquez Have In Common? They Train With The Same Admitted Steroids Dealer"

http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11165.html

"HEREDIA FOOLED THEM ONCE AND SAID HE CAN DO IT AGAIN, SO JUST HOW MUCH HAS HE HELPED MARQUEZ?"


and it didn't help that heredia acted all shady by changing his name only to get called out by conte...

The same conte that labeled pac v jmm 4 "chemical warefare"

[The Big Dunn]

lol can't even compare morales fights with the marquez fights....the stoppage in the second fight was from accumulation and sheer exhaustion on morales' part and the 3rd fight morales quit and it was apparent that at that point he was struggling with weight...and pac was reaching his prime (adding more to his game) while morales was declining...

i expect you to use this same type of critical analysis rooted in boxing on the jmm manny fight rather than the conspiracy stuff.

Just beause Manny lost doesn't make it a conspiracy.

[dynomyte1444]

yah marquez added alot of solid lean muscle in his 4th fight against pac which explains why his foot speed was a little slow and sluggish because he was so top heavy....but how is it a 39 year old is able to add that amount of solid muscle so quickly?? only with the help of testosterone...

Thats not true and only a guess.

the accusations are thrown at both fighters for taking steroids. Both should take the test and leave it at that. If you as a fighter are not asking for extra testing now a days and get KO'd that is your own fault

[SplitSecond]

It wasnt there after fight 3 when he was working with memo

it definitely was there, it was mostly "i hope marquez is roiding, cuz he's gonna need it", "steroids dont increase power, speed or skills" etc people had didn't care because they felt marquez was being fed to pacquiao

but most hadn't taken into full account just what a monster heredia was, he has made alot of gold medalist roiders afterall

on another note, i dont think pacquiao would have been ko'd had he stuck to his own strenght and conditioning, no way he should have let a 40 year old man get such a huge strenght advantage over him

[Fetta]

yah because it was a shock to everyone to see a 39 year old have the power to not only drop pac but KO him...especially considering this is the same guy who twice in his prime couldn't drop pac ..

But he came close so the pop was there. But instead of saying oh jmm isnt throwing rocks to gain strength they started saying PED usage.

Is nonito still using VADA cause i gavent heard anything latley but if he usnt now that conte is gone can we accuse him since conte can also pass tests?

Pac invited a PED user into his camp to help with strength can we accuse him since he has a past and pac has a past of avoiding tests?

Ive said it many times to test them all and ANYONE attached to PEDs should never be allowed to be in any sport.

[JrX]

Pretty obvious he's on something, he drank his own piss to think it gave him an edge

[The Big Dunn]

like i said it was accumulation that broke morales down...it wasn't until the 10th and final round when pac finally knocked morales down twice and by that point it was painfully obvious that morales was exhausted and had nothing left....3rd fight morales quit...it's not like pac Knocked him out cold in the 3rd round..and then you look at the fact that you have pac who is reaching his prime while morales is declining and having weight issues at 130 in their 3rd fight...

so once again..you can't compare the pac vs morales fights with the pac vs marquez fights...

i'm not comparing the fights-I'm comparing how you analyze them and I am asking you to use the same type of pointed analysis for both fights.

Manny dropped his hnds and never saw the punch coming. it hit him in the right spot. then JMM passed every comission test.

[SplitSecond]

like i said it was accumulation that broke morales down...it wasn't until the 10th and final round when pac finally knocked morales down twice and by that point it was painfully obvious that morales was exhausted and had nothing left....3rd fight morales quit...it's not like pac Knocked him out cold in the 3rd round..and then you look at the fact that you have pac who is reaching his prime while morales is declining and having weight issues at 130 in their 3rd fight...

so once again..you can't compare the pac vs morales fights with the pac vs marquez fights...

yep, pacquiao wasn't 39, having people in awe of his amazing new physique while coincidently having a new ped-smuggling strenght and conditioning coach who changed his name

and the hattonizing iron chin morales