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Who is more overrated: Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View Post
    Ali didn't have to say a word, but he did.
    Like I said, I'm not being a hater but I do think Ali is way, way overrated.

    His status came from his protests and the way he talked as much as it did his record.

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    • #22
      Neither is over rated! The went as far as their talents could take them. Tyson could have done more but he needed his team to get over the challenges from a great Evander at that time and a very well prepared Buster! Its not an excuse its a fact!! After that its like anyone else just hanging out there "picking up the pennies"!
      Even the very best get beat at their end, for the heavies it can get dangerous. Sugar Ray traveling the world and loosing close decisions isn't the same result as Mike or Ali getting beat up by guys they would have destroyed in their pime!!! But hey, thats boxing! Ray

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Frank Ducketts View Post
        Neither one of them.
        This. Very few notable historians have Mike top five or anything and Ali's run from 64-75 speaks for itself. Should have quit after Manila.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
          Like I said, I'm not being a hater but I do think Ali is way, way overrated.

          His status came from his protests and the way he talked as much as it did his record.
          His status came from beating every heavyweight that mattered during the best era in the history of the division.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
            His status came from beating every heavyweight that mattered during the best era in the history of the division.
            It's why Lewis and Holy rate so high despite losses too. They fought in the second best era ever. Times matter.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
              I tend to think Ali because he lost a few fights while still in his prime. Yes, he had a chance to fight the best on a regular basis but I just think Joe Louis was the GOAT. Ali said it so much and so loud that eventually, everyone started to believe it as well.

              (Not trying to be a hater)
              Which fights did Ali lose while in his 'prime'?

              70 was not his prime.. He was still elite, but definitely not prime.

              I think Wladimir is overrated.

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              • #27
                Mike, probably the most hyped athlete of the modern era but he didn't quite live up to the billing unlike Ali.

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                • #28
                  Tyson with ease. I dony even have him in my top 50 p4p. He was known for his violence, not his resume.

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                  • #29
                    Ali is not overrated. Tyson is only overrated if you ask casual fans. They think he's the G.O.A.T

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