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  • Originally posted by The Raw Dog View Post
    Of the two mentioned, one guy is in a wheel chair and the other is laid up recovering from injuries. It amazes me how may fans criticize Floyd for what has happen in others careers when clearly if they were all that, they would have been viable option now like a Cotto or Mosley once were. No disrespect to those fighters, but Floyd may have made 100 mil his last fight, and is still the kingpin at 147 and now 154. That doesn't happen fighting scrub after scrub.
    Floyd hasn't fought scrubs, and I actually was happy to see him fight Mosely, Cotto, Judah, De La Hoya, Hatton. I just don't see this problem for Floyd if he is the guy exposing Cotto's flaws, or Paul Williams, or Sergio, or Manny. The point is much of the boxing public (people like me who have never sparred a single round) want fights at the peak. Would anyone wanted to see a Leonard fight a 36 year old Hagler if he already be exposed in recent fights? I purchase the Floyd fights. As much I complain he is the man. Fact remains people feel he avoids fights. That may or may not be the case, but it is the undeniable perception. We can't expect Floyd to fight EVERYONE. He has the right to choose his opponents. Pac fight has lost its appeal. How great would have it been for Floyd if he took the Pac fight when EVERYONE wanted it? Floyd starching Manny would have been amazing! Floyd has been up to 154 so make a fight with Sergio at 154 or Golovkin at 154. Thurman at 147, Khan, Bradley, Alexander... insert your own choice.

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    • As much as some of Floyd's fans might want to erase the avoidance of fighting the best from Floyd's legacy, they can't.

      And when Floyd is judged in the future this avoidance to fight the best will be taking into consideration.

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      • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
        154lbs Martinez, > Cotto, Canelo
        147lbs Pacquiao > Mosley
        147lbs Margarito > Baldomir
        147lbs Williams > Judah


        Mosley and Cotto were also past their prime.
        Yeah but Baldomir was the lineal blah blah champ blah blah

        this is the point right here. groupies cant even admit Baldomir was a crap opponent. the world wont end if you all admit to it

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        • Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View Post
          i didnt start the thread


          im trying to make a point that defending floyd across the board is lame and that acknowledging he has faults isnt the end of the world

          when you make dumb comments like that all the groupies just think every comment criticizing floyd is hating. understand? but hey do what you gotta do man
          floyd had engaged in physical combat with his baby mama. he has refused to engage in physical combat with pacquiao, was terrified of margarito, and celebrated with extreme vigor when matthysse lost to garcia. i am making a point to you that floyd is a ****. a chicken ****. that is all.

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          • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
            154lbs Martinez, > Cotto, Canelo
            147lbs Pacquiao > Mosley
            147lbs Margarito > Baldomir
            147lbs Williams > Judah


            Mosley and Cotto were also past their prime.
            how are pwill and margs better tha baldo and zab? you always argue that the best win determines who is better. baldo and zab have better wins at ww than margs and pwill at the time. mosley had better wins at ww than manny when floyd and manny fought.

            why do you change your criteria now?

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            • Originally posted by D4thincarnation View Post
              154lbs Martinez, > Cotto, Canelo
              147lbs Pacquiao > Mosley
              147lbs Margarito > Baldomir
              147lbs Williams > Judah


              Mosley and Cotto were also past their prime.
              An excuse for EVERY fighter he has fought. But mention the same names against pac AFTER floyd fought them and thy are ATG.

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              • Originally posted by BafanaBafana View Post
                Guerrero #2 at welterweight? How is that possible when you have guys like Mayweather (himself), Marquez, Pac, Bradley, Alexander, Maidana, etc. at the weight. Is this something the Ring/GBP rankings said... When you put those fights into perspective it doesn't really look all that good.
                Its because some of those guys are moving around in weight and getting stripped of titles and what not.

                Ghost was a solid win

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                • Originally posted by Boxing lives View Post
                  floyd had engaged in physical combat with his baby mama. he has refused to engage in physical combat with pacquiao, was terrified of margarito, and celebrated with extreme vigor when matthysse lost to garcia. i am making a point to you that floyd is a ****. a chicken ****. that is all.
                  So now we have matty in this conversation cause he lost to garcia? Damn this is getting sad

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                  • Originally posted by WilkinsOlajuwon View Post
                    Yeah but Baldomir was the lineal blah blah champ blah blah

                    this is the point right here. groupies cant even admit Baldomir was a crap opponent. the world wont end if you all admit to it
                    here is where you are full of *****.

                    you are a poster, like the TS, that argues that the best win determines who is better. baldo and zab have better wins at ww than margs and pwill at this time.

                    why do you change your criteria now?

                    was badlo a great win, no. But when posters want to criticize floyd they use the "best win" argument. why do you abandon that criteria when it's in floyd's favor?

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                    • Originally posted by Big Dunn View Post
                      how are pwill and margs better tha baldo and zab? you always argue that the best win determines who is better. baldo and zab have better wins at ww than margs and pwill at the time. mosley had better wins at ww than manny when floyd and manny fought.

                      why do you change your criteria now?

                      Williams and Margarito had the better wins and the better manner of victory in those wins.

                      Manny's destruction of Cotto much better than anything Mosley had done.

                      Using the same criteria

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