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  • Jc8804
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    #1

    Refs and judges differ

    Since there is no one true person in charge in
    Boxing , why cant there be a way someone or a group
    Can change certain if any rules in boxing.the NFL has changed rules .
    A sport should have unified rules which our sport has , but is not enforced .
    For instance . Imagine and NFL ref allowing the Left Tackle of the Raiders false start over and over .
    We all see it. But he lets its slide. Or if a ref allowed a saftey to clean up a Wr crossing the field on a post , with the ball in mid air on its way. No flag , and it happens all night.

    In a fight every judge is different and every ref is different, there is no rule enforcement , there are like 4 rule books being used and one fighter knows all of them are allowed . The ref uses his preferred and
    Were all left thinking WTF sometimes. The scoring lately and often it seems like is WTF?
    There should be a universal way of being ref and a judge .

    One ref may allow the A side fighter to hold or clinch very often ,and the next ref breaks them right away, or a ref allows both fighters to fight out of clinch and work ,
    , you have guys like wlad who grab and hold anytime a fighters gets inside , when in fact he should have to fight his way back to the outside or work inside and not grab and hold
    Or A side presses the B side fighters head down Over and over . Or a fighter leads with their head.

    You can say some fighters work to get inside and clinch and over and over. I love tactics mind you, but im asking boxing is sweet, should clinching be banned or be allowed ? Why?
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    #2
    One thing about judging I don't like is that there are currently four criteria upon which to score a round:

    (1) - Clean effective punching
    (2) - Effective aggression
    (3) - Ring Generalship
    (4) - Defense

    (2), (3) and (4) aren't needed and only increase the scope for subjectivity between different judges.

    The only thing that should matter imo is No. (1), i.e. who is landing the most clean, effective punches.
    Last edited by Weebler I; 10-03-2013, 12:23 AM.

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    • Sammy2g3
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      #3
      I disagree. Sometimes there aren't really any punches that land clean. I do feel that a person that flurries in the last 30 seconds without doing anything in the first 2 minutes and a half shouldn't take the round.

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      • Weebler I
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        #4
        Originally posted by Sammy2g3
        I disagree. Sometimes there aren't really any punches that land clean.
        Then call it an even round and move on. But honestly, there is usually at least one clean punch in any round.

        I do feel that a person that flurries in the last 30 seconds without doing anything in the first 2 minutes and a half shouldn't take the round.
        It all depends upon what the other guy actually landed in the first two minutes.

        If clean, effective punching is the criterion you can't just give the round to the other guy who has spent 2 minutes catching gloves with his shots and not landing anything clean.
        Last edited by Weebler I; 10-03-2013, 12:54 AM.

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        • Jc8804
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          #5
          The refs being differemt is like
          I love to clinch so hire on the ref who will allow me to do so.

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          • SlySlickSmooth
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            #6
            It's a fight, no matter what you can only control two men so much..

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            • Jc8804
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              #7
              Imagine boxing if clinching was banned .
              Grab once your warned , grab twice , its a point.

              Every rule should be a warning then a point deduction for violation

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              • SlySlickSmooth
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                #8
                Originally posted by Jc8804
                Imagine boxing if clinching was banned .
                Grab once your warned , grab twice , its a point.

                Every rule should be a warning then a point deduction for violation
                We might as well restart the history of boxing, as if the sport never started.

                Boxing was practically half wrestling in it's golden ages where men just fought, they didn't give a damn ****. It was a fight.

                Plus you have a Mayweather avi, dude bends so many rules in the rule book.

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                • thuggery
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                  #9
                  I really dislike the reffing in the Molina-Ishe Smith fight. It was horrible. He didn't allow Molina or Smith to do any inside fighting whatsoever whereas any other competent ref would have allowed them to fight on the inside assuming they weren't in a clinch. I don't know if Smith/TMT specifically wanted him to ref that way but it made it so one fighters' style was completely nullified and it was disturbing.

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                  • dc3383
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by thuggery
                    I really dislike the reffing in the Molina-Ishe Smith fight. It was horrible. He didn't allow Molina or Smith to do any inside fighting whatsoever whereas any other competent ref would have allowed them to fight on the inside assuming they weren't in a clinch. I don't know if Smith/TMT specifically wanted him to ref that way but it made it so one fighters' style was completely nullified and it was disturbing.
                    that fight was just all-around terrible

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