Comments Thread For: The Hell With the Official Verdict: Review, Ratings Update

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Adonis Stevenson validated his place as the Light Heavyweight Champion of the World on Saturday night. The division was in a position where the winner could have been a man who just lost; instead, Stevenson one-upped the performances of Gabriel Campillo and Bernard Hopkins against Tavoris Cloud.

He outboxed him and beat him up. No one had really seen Cloud hurt before Saturday; his toughness was a big asset. Stevenson hurt him to the head and body, cut him over both eyes, and forced surrender.

That’s a good night in Canada.
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[charlieg]

You have Steve Cunningham ahead of Chisora in the rankings. What the fffk?

Delboy is a threat to any heavyweight, is in the best shape of his career, resurgent with 3 wins on the trot. Cunningham hasn't won since... has he even won a fight at heavyweight? I don't even know without checking his record. Cunningham is a threat basically to his own health at HW.

No Haye either?

Bizarre rankings.

[Black Barty]

You have Steve Cunningham ahead of Chisora in the rankings. What the fffk?

Delboy is a threat to any heavyweight, is in the best shape of his career, resurgent with 3 wins on the trot. Cunningham hasn't won since... has he even won a fight at heavyweight? I don't even know without checking his record. Cunningham is a threat basically to his own health at HW.

No Haye either?

Bizarre rankings.

Haye and Vitali exited after over a year of inactivity. Nothing bizarre about that.

I agree on Cunningham though. He was a great CW, but these are divisional rankings, and all he has at HW is a win over a journeyman and a debatable loss to a clearly faded Adamek. I can understand having him in the top 10 at HW based on his CW accomplishments and the effort against Adamek, but #6 is way too high.

And Chisora should be ahead of Cunningham, Boytsov and Jennings. He has a robbery loss to Helenius (highly touted contender at the time), a very solid effort in defeat against Vitali and kickass stoppage wins over Gerber (powerful Euro level guy), Scott (latest US hypejob) and Sexton (solid, skilled British level guy). The only HW's on this list I would confidently pick against him are Wlad and Pulev (and yes, I'm aware that Fury outpointed a grossly out of shape version of Chisora).

[bojangles1987]

Boxing is the one sport where official results might as well not matter most the time.

[Ravens Fan]

I was one that gave Vera eight rounds and when they read the scores I was elated and said to myself, "Imagine that they got this one right." Oh, how wrong I was to assume such a thing.

[PunchyPotorff]

Some thoughts about Vera/Jr fight and others involving Jr..... If you go back and watch alot of Sr's fights, you'll see he was a dirty fighter in most of them. You'll see he laced, headbutted, threw low blows, you name it. Anything to get a W... but he had the entire nation of Mexico in his corner. IMO he was a Hispanic Thug if you will. And he has always been of that mentality, AND he taught Jr. that mentality. Why do you think Jr gets by with coming into a fight 2 weight classes above the weight limit? And why do you think he skips out without taking a P test afterwards? Why do you think we always hear stories about Sr and his Cartel connections? Fans need to wake up, and the sport needs to wake up and check that crapola. Win the fight fair and square, follow the rules, or get the he!! outta the sport. I am sick to death of watching the wrong fighter get the decision. That b.s. has to stop. Period.

[giacomino]

Agree with the decision on Vera/Jr.
One question about the ratings: why is Shumenov still #7 a light heavy. He has not fought a warm body since the middle of 2010, he's not fought even a corpse in more than a year and he has scheduled another cupcake (ranked 116th by boxrec) for later this year. He hasn't fought a mandatory, or even a top 50 opponent, in more than three years. Seems like at some point guys like him should drop out completely. Felt the same way about G. Jones at cruiserweight, although on the rare occasion he fought, he generally took on more credible opposition.

[BennyST]

Some thoughts about Vera/Jr fight and others involving Jr..... If you go back and watch alot of Sr's fights, you'll see he was a dirty fighter in most of them. You'll see he laced, headbutted, threw low blows, you name it. Anything to get a W... but he had the entire nation of Mexico in his corner. IMO he was a Hispanic Thug if you will. And he has always been of that mentality, AND he taught Jr. that mentality. Why do you think Jr gets by with coming into a fight 2 weight classes above the weight limit? And why do you think he skips out without taking a P test afterwards? Why do you think we always hear stories about Sr and his Cartel connections? Fans need to wake up, and the sport needs to wake up and check that crapola. Win the fight fair and square, follow the rules, or get the he!! outta the sport. I am sick to death of watching the wrong fighter get the decision. That b.s. has to stop. Period.

Are you kidding? Sr was never a dirty fighter. For someone who went to the body as much, and as well, as he did, he was remarkably free of low blows and whatever few did stray low were unintentional.

Tim Bradley or Evander Holyfield headbutts mate, Chavez didn't. Very few of his fights ended in, or even had, cuts from headbutts. Blaming Jr's laziness on one of the hardest working, toughest champions of all time is some serious delusion.

Hardly a 'thug' either. Wasn't much of a talker, fought a very methodical, precision based fight of body punching, good defense, excellent counters and hard pressure while showing a champions heart across a long, incredible career. But hey, if you think that one of the hardest working ever is what makes Jr lazy.... whatever floats your boat.