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  • extracurRICular
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    #51
    Originally posted by JAB5239

    I dislike Floyd more than ANY other fighter, but he is undoubtedly great. If he had fought more often he could have established himself inside the top 20 ATG's.
    Not to mention his irrational fan base really does him a disservice when it comes to legacy.......they sure fatten his pockets!! and at the end of the day that is all that matters to him....he is the leach they are the cows....yet they don't seem to understand that doe...

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      #52
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      So you care more about persona than what he actually is in the ring, to me that is a weak way to view things. Persona is something that doesn't really matter and you don't have to respect that persona.

      It is what he actually is in the ring you as a fan should respect, if you can't separate that stuff I don't know~ but I think that is a poor way of looking at him.
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
      Based on what certainly not the action that was going on in the ring~ you shouldn't be calling anyone a suka if that is your take on what was going on in the ring that night.

      Also you get punched once in the face you get on your guard, it was the second punch that did him in. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me~ that fight was the later.
      You sure do like to tell people what they should do huh??? hahahaha does anyone ever listen???

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        #53
        Originally posted by Boxing Bob
        I don't like or respect the "Money" persona Floyd represents, but I acknowledge the fact he is the best boxer in the world today and has been for awhile.
        Originally posted by BIG GUNZ
        He's the best at the moment, & I respect his skills as a fighter, but I still can't stand him. I'm just not a fan of the way he conducts himself outside of the ring. I just can't be a fan of a guy who acts like a huge douche, but I still can't take away from the fact that he's a great fighter.
        Boom goes the dynamite.......

        Originally posted by Kuyukut
        I would never give respect to a scared rich coward.
        pretty hard to call a boxer a coward but I know what you mean.....

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #54
          Originally posted by RicDaRula
          You sure do like to tell people what they should do huh??? hahahaha does anyone ever listen???
          Considering the weak stuff that got said for those responses those men should think about what I told them seriously.

          So you think persona which is a role is some how what a boxer should be viewed about. That is some female stuff, a guy normally cares about the matter at hand and when it comes to boxing it is what a man does in the ring that is worthy of respect or not.

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          • MindBat
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            #55
            Originally posted by A_Jeffrey
            Mayweather is a very good fighter, but he robs boxing fans of good fights. Chooses to fight average fighters. Money is more important to him then legacy I guess.
            He doesn't rob anybody of anything. He goes and does his job, collects his money, and goes home without a scratch.

            You fail to understand that the opponents finally realize how different it is in the ring than outside of it when facing Floyd.

            When they face the Truth, their plans go out the window. Neither their corners nor their fans can save them.

            When it's all said and done, his opponents will reveal how different and how hard it was to decipher the Mayweather code after all the hard training they put in assuring their victories only to be disappointed.

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              #56
              He doesnt run in my inner circle and hes not my family or my friend. With that i can care less what e does outside the ring if it doesnt affect me. Hes an athlete and the best this era has seen in the ring. The man has my respect

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              • The Gambler1981
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                #57
                And if you think Ortiz was on his way to any place other than any of Floyd's other opponents, then what you say really doesn't matter anyway. Just watch the fight he was clearly in a lot of trouble, it was plain to anyone with reasonably sharp boxing eyes.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by MindBat
                  He doesn't rob anybody of anything. He goes and does his job, collects his money, and goes home without a scratch.

                  You fail to understand that the opponents finally realize how different it is in the ring than outside of it when facing Floyd.

                  When they face the Truth, their plans go out the window. Neither their corners nor their fans can save them.

                  When it's all said and done, his opponents will reveal how different and how hard it was to decipher the Mayweather code after all the hard training they put in assuring their victories only to be disappointed.
                  You make it sound a lot more esoterical and spiritual than it truly is. Floyds opponents come for the $s. There is beauty in boxing, but rarely within the motives that make fights.

                  I doubt that most of his opponents (or at least their management) believe they are likely to win. The.. ahem..'Truth' is that FMJ is likely the best boxer of a generation, but like any other boxer, remains human, and is, I'm sure, aware of the actual 'truth' than anyone can lose, or be beaten.

                  The 'truth' is that win or lose a fight with Floyd is likely every fighters' biggest career payday.

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                    You make it sound a lot more esoterical and spiritual than it truly is. Floyds opponents come for the $s. There is beauty in boxing, but rarely within the motives that make fights.

                    I doubt that most of his opponents (or at least their management) believe they are likely to win. The.. ahem..'Truth' is that FMJ is likely the best boxer of a generation, but like any other boxer, remains human, and is, I'm sure, aware of the actual 'truth' than anyone can lose, or be beaten.

                    The 'truth' is that win or lose a fight with Floyd is likely every fighters' biggest career payday.
                    All it takes is 2 odd ball judges to lose a fight, I am sure that reality is very real to Floyd now. In a fight a bit closer that could easily be costly, I am almost sure that is how Floyd will lose eventually. Being actually beaten I don't know if any fighter thinks like that because a fighter needs that sort of confidence and Floyd is not lacking in the confidence department.

                    The fight getting made thing is true though, and it goes beyond that because even if you lose to Floyd there really isn't much downside because you banked, you got tons of extra exposure and even if you lose you lost to the top guy in which there is not much shame in losing to (not to mention if you look like you belong in the same ring it is almost like winning for most guys).

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                    • MindBat
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
                      You make it sound a lot more esoterical and spiritual than it truly is. Floyds opponents come for the $s. There is beauty in boxing, but rarely within the motives that make fights.

                      I doubt that most of his opponents (or at least their management) believe they are likely to win. The.. ahem..'Truth' is that FMJ is likely the best boxer of a generation, but like any other boxer, remains human, and is, I'm sure, aware of the actual 'truth' than anyone can lose, or be beaten.

                      The 'truth' is that win or lose a fight with Floyd is likely every fighters' biggest career payday.
                      The fact remains, Floyd's most recent opponents held titles and were coming off of decent wins win they faced Floyd. They were #1 in their division before the fight.

                      You make it seem like they knew they would eventually have to face Floyd and would have to settle for a loss as long as they collected the big paycheck.

                      I respect your opinion, nonetheless.

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