If Rios beats Pac does it prove Ariza was more important to Team Pac than Roach is?

[F!x]

A lot of factors to consider of course, coming off a KO loss, political diversions, age etc.. But let's say Manny just doesn't look anything close to his normal self and Rios comes out fighting like a beast, somehow managing to beat Pacquiao impressively, either by KO or decision. Would that lead you to believe Ariza was perhaps much more of a key factor in Manny's success over the years? Would you start to doubt Roach's value and contribution to Team Pac?

Apparently Manny didn't do any strength and conditioning for the last Marquez fight and in the Rios fight Roach has asked Buboy to utilize their old routine from way back before Ariza joined. What happens if Manny just isn't in the same physical condition due to a much less effective training/nutrition regime? Does it mean Ariza was actually a much more valuable and vital component to Pacquiao's success over the years?

[SOPH~ REP.]

Not having Ariza didnt affect the outcome ,Marquez formality with Pacqiaio was

[F!x]

Not having Ariza didnt affect the outcome ,Marquez formality with Pacqiaio was

Possibly so, but strength and conditioning could potentially effect your punch resistance and Ariza said Pacquiao did zero s&c for the last Marquez fight

[reppa]

Like you said there are a lot of factors to consider. I think the only way Ariza could be more beneficial to Rios camp over Pac would be the tension between Ariza and Roach. It definitley didn't help things.

[Fetta]

No it just means pac is done.

[Jloro]

Roach hasn't been doing well at all lately