Pedro Diaz Appreciation Thread

[Southpawology]

My favorite current trainer. I also wonder how juanmas career would of panned out had he been with diaz from the very start

[CubanGuyNYC]

Another ATG line dropped by Pedro Diaz in todays fighter meeting


There are a lot of fighters that express what the public wants to hear outside the ring, but in the ring the tongue doesn't fight. - P. Diaz

lmao Great line.

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

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Originally Posted by Sin City

the high altitude training.. they trained, i think in big bear, and cotto didnt have time to get adjusted to the climate with enough time before the fight and blamed his loss on diaz.

I think stylistic change had a certain amount to do with it too. When Cotto thinks of his glory days he thinks about taking it to the opponent and imposing his will, not boxing tactically and moving like he was under Diaz. It's difficult enough for a guy to change a style he had so much success with anyway, but when he loses with it he just loses faith in the whole idea.

The fast that he went to an offensively minded coach like Freddie afterwards suggests that this is how he was thinking. Then you get everyone saying afterwards that the 'old' Cotto was back etc. as well.

Remains to be seen which philosophy was the right one for him though. I have my doubts that Roach is right for him at 154, never mind 160.

I understand where you're coming from but WTF did Cotto expect? How many people have beaten Mayweather? I mean, at least he gave him one of his toughest fights to date.


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[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

What screwed Cotto in the Mayweather fight was lack of stamina.


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[CubanGuyNYC]

It should be very obvious that Cotto left because he lost his last two fights before Rodriguez. Losses to Mayweather and then Trout. When these fighters start losing fights in consecutive fashion, they drop their trainer like hot potatoes.

You saw what Khan did with Roach after he dropped two. You saw what Shane Mosley did with ****im after his losses. You saw what Judah did with Whitaker. Victor Ortiz dropped Garcia after a couple losses too. Berto dropped his trainer after a couple losses. You see the pattern? The list goes on...

No doubt. I can understand why fighters do that. When your career is on the skids, you can't afford to be patient. All the guys in question have fought, or are currently fighting, for big money. No time to waste. You can become irrelevant in a hurry.

[CubanGuyNYC]

What screwed Cotto in the Mayweather fight was lack of stamina.


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What screwed Cotto in the Mayweather fight was Mayweather.

Miguel was as well-prepared as possible in that fight. His performance supported that. Trouble was, he was fighting the #1 P4P fighter on planet Earth. Not to mention, Cotto was already past prime and outside his best weight.

[DannYankee]

Tongue doesn't fight moda***ahs!

[CubanGuyNYC]

I think stylistic change had a certain amount to do with it too. When Cotto thinks of his glory days he thinks about taking it to the opponent and imposing his will, not boxing tactically and moving like he was under Diaz. It's difficult enough for a guy to change a style he had so much success with anyway, but when he loses with it he just loses faith in the whole idea.

The fast that he went to an offensively minded coach like Freddie afterwards suggests that this is how he was thinking. Then you get everyone saying afterwards that the 'old' Cotto was back etc. as well.

Remains to be seen which philosophy was the right one for him though. I have my doubts that Roach is right for him at 154, never mind 160.

Good post, Doc. We all resist change, especially when the old ways worked just fine. Cotto went along with the program until he lost the Trout fight, then he lost faith. It seems clear that Diaz wanted to re-invent Miguel for future success. Pedro didn't see his charge successfully moving forward in his old style, so he made some alterations. They didn't work, so...bye-bye.

[Dr Rumack]

What screwed Cotto in the Mayweather fight was lack of stamina.


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Had a lot to do with it anyway. He had a great round in the 8th but when he came out in the 9th he just looked done. Wasn't able to cut Floyd off anymore whenever he had him backed up. Instead of Floyd getting backed into the ropes as he had been previously, he used that extra bit of room to move away and get back to the centre of the ring where he was comfortable.

Cotto just didn't have the gas to keep working the gameplan and he probably lost every round from there in, with the possible exception of the 10th which Floyd seemed to take off as well.

Diaz gave him a great plan though. Not many would have seen Cotto being as competitive as he was for the first eight rounds.