Why Won’t Floyd Mayweather Pick Up His ‘Easy’ $75 Mil and Fight Manny Pacquiao?

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #141
    Originally posted by Twako
    soooo... by your logic, which would go against your stand on pac-morales2, that it was was a great win for pac. morales wasn't ktfo like frazier right?

    and you're dumb if you just compared hatton's ko to manny's. hatton was being pulverized from pillar to post before the KO while manny was pulverizing jmm's face before the KO.
    Look I know you are trying to make a point, but even if you literally just swallowed pac's semen you know losing to george foreman is different than losing to zahir raheem. so come on.

    I told you what comparison I'm making so dont pretend to be mentally challenged.

    You are assuming casual fans are parsing KO's like you are. WHat happened before the KO isn't going to matter to them as much. The end result was they both lost by brutal KO.

    After a KO loss like that I don't think many casual fans think manny can beat floyd. they may be dead wrong, but if they don't think he can win the fight isn't as big.

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    • J The UnBiased
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      #142
      Originally posted by -MAKAVELLI-
      dont see it, bud...Canelo had zero tools that could have bothered Floyd...no stamina, no speed, no movement...all he had was size and a lil more power...power that was useless because he has the handspeed of a turtle


      it was a good win for Floyd but let's face it, im sure my group wasn't the only one that toasted 'to a lucky punch' before the first round started



      i see a faded, reckless PAC, with his diminished attributes as being more troublesome for Floyd
      Come on now Mak, Canelo doesn't have slow handspeed. Slow feet? No question about it lol but you are right, the biggest thing he had going for him was his size which he did not use. What i'm saying is when this fight was announced these were the things we looked at. Canelo's youth, size, speed, power and IQ. With Pacquiao after the loss to Juan, we would be looking at Speed, angles, movement, and power. But we would also be looking to see if he could take a punch, would he be gun shy, is age affecting him, has he slowed down. We were looking at a kid entering his prime and a man who is far removed from it.

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      • KeepItObjective
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        #143
        Originally posted by dynomyte1444
        He got robbed in marquez 3, smoked in marquez 4

        couldnt cut off the ring in the shane fight

        I agree he beat time but he got out boxed and in a rematch I would take tim.

        Not only but being smoked in his last fight might of taken years off his career
        You're a dimwit.

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        • Derranged
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          #144
          I don't think he's inferior, and I think the fight should be made. NOW.

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          • J The UnBiased
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            #145
            Originally posted by KeepItObjective
            Disagreed, he whipped Mosley and knocked him down with leg cramps, outpointed and out worked Marquez in a so called robbery, whipped a prime undefeated Bradley and looked back to his best before he got KTFO against Marquez. Pac isn't as shot as people make out. Yes he needs to get a good win or two under his belt to get the Mayweather shot, but he's not as shot as people think.
            I think saying Pac is shot is an overstatement as well, I just fon't think his mind is on boxing the way it used to be. If he's focused again, he may be able to look like a past prime still good Manny, the way Floyd is past prime but still good. As far as his last performances. We have totally different takes on the fights lol. With Mosley, I saw a Manny who struggled to make the fight due to an old mans movement. He got the win but it was far from a spectacular performance. He looked like a good fighter at 147. Against Marquez, I felt he lost completely. It was a good fight, but I had it 7 rounds to 5 for Juan. Nonetheless, Manny put up a good fight, and looked nothing more than just a good fighter at 147. Against Bradley, he impressed me in the early rounds and then he just looked like an average fighter and that's because he took his foot off the gas. I felt he beat Bradley but it was not a dominant performance. He again looked like a good fighter at 147. Against Juan for the 4th time, I think his performance is highly over rated due to 1 round. Through the 1st 5 rounds, they were evenly matched, in the 6th Pacquiao turned it up but Juan was not on his way out. He was calm, poised and completely focused on the fight and we all know what happened next. So what I'm saying is, we clearly are not dealing with the same Manny that looked like a great fighter at 147 against Clottey, Cotto, Hoya, Hatton and Margs. There is an obvious drop off in performance and I think we can all agree on that.

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            • Twako
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              #146
              Originally posted by Big Dunn
              Look I know you are trying to make a point, but even if you literally just swallowed pac's semen you know losing to george foreman is different than losing to zahir raheem. so come on.

              I told you what comparison I'm making so dont pretend to be mentally challenged.

              You are assuming casual fans are parsing KO's like you are. WHat happened before the KO isn't going to matter to them as much. The end result was they both lost by brutal KO.

              After a KO loss like that I don't think many casual fans think manny can beat floyd. they may be dead wrong, but if they don't think he can win the fight isn't as big.
              you just got caught in your own twisted idiotic fl0wmo logic so you resorted to more gibberish ******ed KO generalization lol.

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              • J The UnBiased
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                #147
                Originally posted by Twako
                you just got caught in your own twisted idiotic fl0wmo logic so you resorted to more gibberish ******ed KO generalization lol.
                Lol....like seriously?

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                • BoxingIsGreat
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                  #148
                  Marquez is Pac's daddy. Who is Marquez's daddy? Floyd. Ask Marquez, he would readily tell you that Floyd is his boxing superior, by far. Just ask him.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by Twako
                    you just got caught in your own twisted idiotic fl0wmo logic so you resorted to more gibberish ******ed KO generalization lol.
                    ok, if you say so. enjoy manny rios. lets hope he wins and then beats bradley and the hype will be back. until then I assume NSB will be asking for sergio or ggg instead of manny to fight floyd.

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                    • dynomyte1444
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by KeepItObjective
                      You're a dimwit.
                      why because you dont agree?

                      Why do you think jmm vs pac 3 was called a robbery by most? Because it was.

                      I think you are just to hung up pac to see things clearly. especially since you say he looked so good in all those fights. thats just laughable

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