Floyd is more talented but JMM has the better wins

[Mr Ehrmantraut]

Why because Floyd is a bit bigger than JMM? OK Floyd is taller and more rangy and used those attributes to defuse JMM, I know you don't dog a certain heavyweight for similar advantages he uses.

IF you are talking about the weight go back and look at what got said going into that fight everyone on Floyd's side said this is a welterweight fight. JMM knew the deal going in and took the risk/payday so I don't see why Floyd would not get any credit~. If they fought (they fought in many fo the same weight classes jsut at different times and JMM started 1 class below Floyd) at any point the same **** would happen because Floyd is always taller and more rangy

He forced him up two weight division and then conned him on the scales.

It is the same as Golovkin agreeing to fight Floyd at 154. Floyd weighs in at 150 and Golovkin says screw this and comes in at 160.

[Rico1965]

Floyd has like 20 decent wins but Marquez has 1 great win. 20 years from now no one is going to talk about Floyd's win against that all time great 29-6 Victor Ortiz. People will be talking about Marquez's legendary knockout of Pacquiao for aslong as this sport is alive.

Well said Sir

[Stuntman Mike]

Is that like Kayode always being remembered for pretty well handling a roided Tarver, who KOed RJJ

That fight was terrible and and Tarver was at thye end of his career ****** and Kayode far from manhandled him haha I actually think Tarver got the better in that fight (if you're comparing a close draw"Tarver,Kayode" to a sheer dominating performance by Mayweather against Juan you make it extremely obvious you have an agenda)
ahaha ,Marquez was still the same Marquez or perhaps even better when he fought Mayweather because he was slightly younger (its not as if he could get better in a couple years at 40)


Plus Tarvers win over Roy wasn't impressive as Roy was on the decline... your argument is flawed as hell

[The Gambler1981]

He forced him up two weight division and then conned him on the scales.

It is the same as Golovkin agreeing to fight Floyd at 154. Floyd weighs in at 150 and Golovkin says screw this and comes in at 160.

He didn't force JMM to do anything that was JMM"s choice he wanted to challenge himself.

It would be the same if Golovkin said that he never intended to make the weight the whole time, also it would not be a full 160 it would be like ok fuck it I came down to 156 I am not dropping more.

JMM knew the deal it was all laid out there for him the whole promotion, so if he got conned that is his fault for being a fool and JMM is not a fool.

Floyd is a bit bigger than JMM, that played a roll in why he won but lots of guys are a bit bigger and get plenty of credit. All you are laying out is an excuse~ oh and in your scenario Golovkin would get plenty of credit~

[Stuntman Mike]

Floyd has like 20 decent wins but Marquez has 1 great win. 20 years from now no one is going to talk about Floyd's win against that all time great 29-6 Victor Ortiz. People will be talking about Marquez's legendary knockout of Pacquiao for aslong as this sport is alive.

haha and nobody will remember Floyd totally schooling Marquez at the weight he sensationally ko'd Pac??? lol you're an idiot... everyone going on about how he beat Manny??? yet Floyd beat the guy that beat Manny... who else has totally dominated Marquez... haha you're bigging up Marquez for ko'ing Manny and disregarding
Mayweathers win over Marquez at the exact same weight he fought Manny at an even earlier stage of Juans career


geez so many ******s

[HeroBando]

That fight was terrible and and Tarver was at thye end of his career ****** and Kayode far from manhandled him haha I actually think Tarver got the better in that fight (if you're comparing a close draw"Tarver,Kayode" to a sheer dominating performance by Mayweather against Juan you make it extremely obvious you have an agenda)
ahaha ,Marquez was still the same Marquez or perhaps even better when he fought Mayweather because he was slightly younger (its not as if he could get better in a couple years at 40)


Plus Tarvers win over Roy wasn't impressive as Roy was on the decline... your argument is flawed as hell

Fine, if we gonna be putting things into context, Pac may well been as washed up as RJJ pre Tarver, and JMM obviously looked better physically for Pac 4. For Floyd, JMM had barely moved up to 135 where he was being muscled by the likes of Juan Diaz, and made hard work of shot Casa. Then moved up to 144 (or so he thought) eating tacos and throwing rocks. You could see the flab. For 4 Memo called him Hulk.

Regardless, JMM is a bad matchup for Pac. He's never gonna do well vs Floyd just like Junior Jones couldn't deal with Morales and Norton with Foreman, but dealt with tMAB and Ali.

[HeroBando]

haha and nobody will remember Floyd totally schooling Marquez at the weight he sensationally ko'd Pac??? lol you're an idiot... everyone going on about how he beat Manny??? yet Floyd beat the guy that beat Manny... who else has totally dominated Marquez... haha you're bigging up Marquez for ko'ing Manny and disregarding
Mayweathers win over Marquez at the exact same weight he fought Manny at an even earlier stage of Juans career


geez so many ******s

Again, Morales' win over Jones is good, but not career defining. Same with Foreman vs Norton. And in neither of these cases was the opponent moving up 2 weightclasses, with a CW the other guy blew off.

[HAVISJ]

I'd rank JMM higher in the ATG list just based on his wins. The Pac KO is a win that creates legends. Fraud Jr. missed out on that chance. Would you say JMM has better wins against tougher opposition than Mayweather? Discuss.

Ask any boxer or trainer, who's higher on the ATG list? I'm sure they will say "Mayweather" hands down. Hell, there are boxers saying Mayweather is the greatest ever and ranking him within the top 5.

[littlemac]

The butt hurtness is intense in this thread. Floyd's on going success can't be easy on the paccturds and haters

[ELPacman]

Sorry to stir up some dramatics, it's just after the dust settled on the Canelo win, I woke up and said, holy ***, was I high? It was Canelo... Wtf has he done in his career thus far? The smoke screen wears thin on Fraud's victories.