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  • Carpe Diem
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    #121
    Originally posted by BennyST
    Those examples you gave are the complete opposite of what you wanted. What you showed there is actually examples of Floyd out thinking his opponents and then dominating them. In boxing, punches always land.

    You gave single examples of some good punches being landed, but then they didn't land another shot that good for the rest of the fight. That means they didn't outthink Floyd at all, and in fact were out thought themselves.

    Landing one punch early in the fight, then being unable to land anything else significant is the best example of being completely out thought.

    Anyone can say "you have to outthink Floyd to beat him". Well, no ****. How is that done though? You gave great examples of Floyd out thinking his opponents, so now give some examples of the opposite.

    Landing one punch isn't out thinking someone. Landing the same punch, or one with slight variations, over the course of a fight is. Or, if they can adjust to your gameplan, being able to change yourself and land different punches over the fight. But, the best thinkers/adjusters in the game, Floyd, Ward, Hopkins, Marquez all get hit. The difference is they rarely get hit with the same shots over the course of a whole fight and can adjust to allow them to hit their opponents more and stop the incoming stuff.

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    • Stallion_
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      #122
      There are several ways in my opinion, but neither of them guarantees victory.

      First way would be to have a great stamina and be able to go put the pressure on and keep firing for 12 rounds. The fighter needs to be extremely well conditioned in order to keep that rhythm. Being southpaw would also help, because it would cut the effectiveness of Mayweather's defense. Speed and power is also required, as well as high volume of punches. All of that combined would definitely cause Floyd problems and might result Floyd being outworked as well. Wait... these characteristics actually look familiar.

      Another way would be, believe it or not, to outbox him. Right now I can't think of a fighter around his weight class that could do that. If only Rigo was in Lara's skin... Rigondeaux' style looks absolutely brilliant and IMO it's the only style superior to Floyd's. If they were the same weight, I'd pick Rigo. Floyd would be forced to pressure Rigondeaux at times and that's the very wrong thing to do against Rigo. So yeah, Rigo's style, skills and IQ beats Floyd's style, skills and IQ, imo.

      The next thing would be being some elite jabber, outside fighter and also being bigger guy than Floyd, with longer reach. Right now I can't think of an active WW/JrMW fighter with those characteristics, but anyway, jabbing Floyd and keeping distance would work, especially if you hug him (also lean) and do whatever possible to prevent the fight on the inside. Refs tolerating that would also help. That would be an awful fight to watch, but imo some mini-Wladimir style could bring a quite comfortable UD.

      And finally, Oscar's style. I felt he was doing very well against Floyd but he just couldn't keep it until the end. Imo a younger, more durable Oscar would beat him to an UD.

      No fighter is unbeatable and no one will ever be unbeatable, but also, nothing guarantees a 100% victory. That's boxing. It's generally considered that Castillo defeated Floyd in the first fight, but was robbed, so it's not like there is absolutely no blueprint for Mayweather. Also, Marciano was going to lose against Walcott but he caught him in the 13 round and won. Not even sure if I should mention Ottke and his wins. Is there not a blueprint for Ottke? Of course, it's a banal example but in reality nobody is truly unbeatable.
      Last edited by Stallion_; 09-25-2013, 07:04 PM.

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      • Tay Roc
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        #123
        Join the IRS. They're undefeated against Money May.

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        • ADP02
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          #124
          Originally posted by dc3383
          Castillo lost twice so need to talk about made up victories
          In the first fight, Castillo appeared in control of the fight and proved Floyd was beatable. If you think Floyd won, it's because you gave him most of the early rounds where BOTH fighters did little but once Castillo got going, it was clear on who you would rather be that night. Castillo was the better man that night but lost on the cards.

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          • KING MEAT
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            #125
            if you can corner him, go balls to the wall with combinations.

            if you can. but that shts impossible.

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            • ADP02
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              #126
              Originally posted by Reloaded
              You always need another right fighter !!

              Castilo lost to Floyd twice , first time injured and instant rematch for another much clearer win uninjured , if you comment is not delusional its down syndrome .

              Every time he beats one of them he wasn't the right one , but before the fight the guy is gunna KO him !

              Lots of haters in here said Canelo was going to destroy him , lots said Hatton was going to destroy him , every fight he has a whole bunch are picking the other guy , or why would they keep buying to see Floyd win so easy .

              They just broke every viewing record ever made in boxing with the Canelo fight , why , you think its because everybody thought Floyd was going to win in cruise control LOL , wake up !

              So when is it the right guy for every one ? when the right guy changes from fight to fight , you said he was ducking Canelo , and here you are spinning sht again , does not matter who Floyd fights , if he wins it was always the opponents fault .

              Your watching a truly great fighter and your too busy hating to see anything but hate .
              I called it way before the fight with Canelo was announced that Canelo was not ready for Floyd. I pointed out his inexperience and his flaws that he needed to fix if he wanted to try to beat Floyd. Canelo had stamina issues and I'm sure the CW didn't help in that department.

              Hatton fought in the wrong division. He looked very average in his only fight at 147 but was King at 140. Floyd fought him at 147.

              Yes, on the cards Castillo lost the first fight but it proved that Floyd was beatable that night. That is the point. Many of you Floyd fans are saying that he is unbeatable but on that night, you saw that Castillo was beating Floyd. Floyd took some of the early close rounds on the cards but once Castillo warmed up, he won his rounds more decisively.

              The HBO announcers and Lederman had it for Castillo. Many here at BS had it for Castillo but again the point was that it proves that Floyd was beatable so don't go exaggerating and saying it's not possible to beat Floyd.
              Last edited by ADP02; 09-26-2013, 12:06 AM.

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              • ADP02
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                #127
                Originally posted by KING MEAT
                if you can corner him, go balls to the wall with combinations.

                if you can. but that shts impossible.
                You just need the right fighter(s) to do it. Not green. Not out of prime. Not inactive and not old .... been in the division for a while (not 0, 1 or 2 fights) and proved they belong ..... hint hint at who he has been fighting of late.

                To start off, against someone like Floyd, you don't want to lose the early rounds because then Floyd will fight even more defensively and move away from you even more. See against Castillo, even his corner was telling him that it's time to fight because he was losing that fight. So he began trading more with Castillo.
                Last edited by ADP02; 09-26-2013, 12:09 AM.

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                • Reloaded
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by ADP02
                  I called it way before the fight with Canelo was announced that Canelo was not ready for Floyd. I pointed out his inexperience and his flaws that he needed to fix if he wanted to try to beat Floyd. Canelo had stamina issues and I'm sure the CW didn't help in that department.

                  Hatton fought in the wrong division. He looked very average in his only fight at 147 but was King at 140. Floyd fought him at 147.
                  Yes, on the cards Castillo lost the first fight but it proved that Floyd was beatable that night. That is the point. Many of you Floyd fans are saying that he is unbeatable but on that night, you saw that Castillo was beating Floyd. Floyd took some of the early close rounds on the cards but once Castillo warmed up, he won his rounds more decisively.

                  The HBO announcers and Lederman had it for Castillo. Many here at BS had it for Castillo but again the point was that it proves that Floyd was beatable so don't go exaggerating and saying it's not possible to beat Floyd.
                  How many times have we gone over the Hatton fight concerning weight , and you just keep spinning the same baseless dribble , we know what they weighed on fight night , and we know what Hatton weighed on fight night with KT Castillo Floyd and Collazo , so we KNOW Floyd fought Hatton at the same ring weights as all his biggest wins with a 140 weigh-in , and we also KNOW he was 8lbs heavier than the Floyd fight when in the ring against Collazo , and still you talk sht you moron .

                  Bottom line kid you don't know sht what your talking about , even when PROOF is in your face , pointed out , quoted and stamped , and 2 posts later your spinning the same sht , my dog retains better than you do , you hatters are the biggest cowards on the site .

                  Here is a question your all afraid off .

                  Why does Manny get weak and need a 14 day cut off with Floyd , but he doesn't get weak and need a cut off date with Rios .

                  The Cut off dates is why the fight fell through in the first place , and NOW we see that the " I get weak from taking blood story " was all Manny BS to duck the fight .

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