Comments Thread For: Canelo: Mayweather Demanded a Second Day Weigh-In

[koolbreez12]

Everyone agrees Chavez Jr is a chump for fighting in a much lighter division than his actual weight. I don't think many of you would dispute that.. but when it comes to Canelo people are quick to turn an eye at the very same cheap tactics that he uses to gain size advantage against his opponents. So please, someone justifying Canelo fighting in LMW, please explain the difference between him and Chavez Jr? Or if you agree that both of them are justifiably in their right weight classes, why? I'm very curious to here some answers. And don't use the "Floyd has a belt at that weightclass" bs. Jus explain why its ok to fight way lower than your actual weight so you can blow up on fight night , exceeding the agreed weight by 2+ weightclass?

[boxingfeind]

Canelo is telling the truth and Ellerbe is lying. Canelo did offer to fight Mayweather at 152 pounds in 2011. Nobody but an idiot would assume that that had anything to do with negotiations for a 2013 fight. Canelo could make a lower weight in 2011. Team Mayweather has a proven record of lying and Canelo has never been shown to lie or contradict himself as Floyd so often does. Team Mayweather started off wanting this fight at 147 pounds as reported in boxing scene top headlines. Canelo had to bargain him up to 152. Floyd was never going to fight him at 154 so it was 152 or no fight. Of course Canelo wanted to fight at 154. The 152 catchweight is 100% team Mayweather's doing and if they had their way the weight would be 147 or 150.

Canelo is not known for lying?2 years ago Canelo claimed that Floyd agreed to fight him and that a fight with him and Floyd will happen in 2012.And that turned out to be a lie on Canelo`s part.After Floyd picked Cotto,Canelo claimed Floyd picked Cotto over him cause Cotto was supposedly a easier opponent,when in reality,Cotto was ranked higher then Canelo and was a bigger fight financially at the time.


Richard Scheafer said it himself that their was no weight negotiation problems for the negotiation of the Canelo vs Floyd fight.The Whole Canelo claim and Floyd claims are just that,claims. None of us was their for the negotiations,so nobody knows for sure what was said.


50 cent claimed that Mayweather Promotions don`t exist and that he tried to help Floyd start a promotional company "so Floyd can retire comfortably".And people believed it like the idiots that they are,despite the fact that 50 and Floyd had a falling out.And people wound up looking ****** when it turned out that 50 was lying.

[richardt]

I suggested that this is what Mayweather should have done in the first place. He would never have had the Hypocrisy label and no one could have complained about Canelo being drained, or anything negative and Mayweather would have WOW'd a lot of fans and critics for taking the fight with no Catchweight.

[Mayabang]

Im saying Floyd deserves the same standards as Manny got , Floyd is held to a higher standard and that is wrong , Ive said it a million times I don't like CWs and if after the fight its clear a guy was weight drained I will say so including this fight , but a Manny fan attacking Floyd in this fight is just pure unashamed flip flopping .

Im about now before the fight happens every bit of negative crap that can be pulled out of context is the next headline , its like a forum catering to haters , and Im not just talking about Floyd , the hate in here that is allowed towards anybody that does good is just amazing , there is no constructive debate its just all hate driven , the forum has gone to the pits .

It's NOT FLIPFLOPPING, It's purely pointing out Floyd and his fanbase's HYPOCRISY. Don't you get that concept at all?

Do you not admit Floyd's hypocrisy on the catchweight subject? Because the problem with alot of you floyd fanatics is that you are quick to criticize Pac, but when Floyd does the same exact thing, instead of calling FLoyd out of his obvious HYPOCRISY, you still try to find a way to blame Pac and his fans. Jesus, Floyd can never do wrong with you guys, it's quite amazing (and ******ed tbh)

[Reloaded]

It's NOT FLIPFLOPPING, It's purely pointing out Floyd and his fanbase's HYPOCRISY. Don't you get that concept at all?

Do you not admit Floyd's hypocrisy on the catchweight subject? Because the problem with alot of you floyd fanatics is that you are quick to criticize Pac, but when Floyd does the same exact thing, instead of calling FLoyd out of his obvious HYPOCRISY, you still try to find a way to blame Pac and his fans. Jesus, Floyd can never do wrong with you guys, it's quite amazing (and ******ed tbh)

Ive said all along I don't like the CW any of them including this and if Canelo looks like a drained fighter to me I will say so and call for the rematch without the CW ,, now for the life of me how can a Manny fan claim Floyd a coward for wanting the CW against somebody their hero would never fight at the same CW ?

And claiming Floyd is a coward is not about hypocrisy that's fanboy flip flopping , the flip floppers are not attacking Floyd fans for saying what they did , they wont even debate on what was said and what wasn't , come have a go and me for my stand on CWs , I,ll debate who ever on that topic , but they don't , they spew hate and run .

This is not about hypocrisy that's just the bait to bring out the hate , this is all about pure hate aimed directly at Floyd , and from Manny fans that's BS , where is the Manny threads LOL , they not even Manny fans any more just Floyd haters .

[techliam]

Ive said all along I don't like the CW any of them including this and if Canelo looks like a drained fighter to me I will say so and call for the rematch without the CW ,, now for the life of me how can a Manny fan claim Floyd a coward for wanting the CW against somebody their hero would never fight at the same CW ?

And claiming Floyd is a coward is not about hypocrisy that's fanboy flip flopping , the flip floppers are not attacking Floyd fans for saying what they did , they wont even debate on what was said and what wasn't , come have a go and me for my stand on CWs , I,ll debate who ever on that topic , but they don't , they spew hate and run .

This is not about hypocrisy that's just the bait to bring out the hate , this is all about pure hate aimed directly at Floyd , and from Manny fans that's BS , where is the Manny threads LOL , they not even Manny fans any more just Floyd haters .

Pacquiao and Mayweather are both catchweight queens and cherrypickers. Both as bad as eachother, and both could have accomplished much more in not doing so...

Is that fanboy flip-flopping? I can never seem to get a proper response from the Mayweather extreme fanatics, as their usual defense of reverting to Pacquiao really doesn't work with me...

The most I got from you Reloaded, was "a 154 catchweight is different from a 147 catchweight son"

[Reloaded]

Pacquiao and Mayweather are both catchweight queens and cherrypickers. Both as bad as eachother, and both could have accomplished much more in not doing so...

Is that fanboy flip-flopping? I can never seem to get a proper response from the Mayweather extreme fanatics, as their usual defense of reverting to Pacquiao really doesn't work with me...

The most I got from you Reloaded, was "a 154 catchweight is different from a 147 catchweight son"

Well if that all you got from it I guess you don't know what Im talking about , and yes losing 2lb from a 147 pound fighter is different than a 154 pound fighter losing 2lb when both are down on there weight before the CW , the only thing that is mathematics and should be common sense you don't get LOL .

The Margo 150 CW hurt Margarito , he had to lose twice as much as Canelo and need diuretics to make it , and Margarito is bigger than Canelo , they both fought at WW at the same time and both went to 154 , its fine for Margos CW to be 150 , and Floyd is crucified for 152 over a infinitely better undefeated fighter , where is the logic in all this .

I agree they both cherry pick and they both are hypocrites , but they don't both do it in equal degrees , Manny is the worst of the 2 in match manipulation , which is what the real subject matter is , who manipulated fights the most , who cherry picked the most , who ducked the most , the manipulating fights goes to Manny , the cherry picking the most goes to Manny , only got to compare Canelo to Rios to figure that out , ducking is all hype and propaganda with somebody trying to save face , who is the bigger hypocrite , Floyd is because he talks the most , Manny does not open himself he will just be the politician and smile and nod .

[Rip Chudd]

Is there a rehydration clause for this fight? No. Then I don't care. Negotiations are over, it's time to fight.

[-PBP-]

I suggested that this is what Mayweather should have done in the first place. He would never have had the Hypocrisy label and no one could have complained about Canelo being drained, or anything negative and Mayweather would have WOW'd a lot of fans and critics for taking the fight with no Catchweight.

I'm no weight expert but doesn't the catch weight force further sweating, dehydration and starving in the days leading up to the fight? I would think if he wanted the advantage the catch weight would do more damage.

[Reloaded]

I'm no weight expert but doesn't the catch weight force further sweating, dehydration and starving in the days leading up to the fight? I would think if he wanted the advantage the catch weight would do more damage.

No it just takes more expertise and management over nutrition , the physical work is the same although he would work harder in camp for this fight anyway , just because of the sheer motivation , when both areas of training and nutrition are at a level that is higher than you have ever had before , its then a big chance you will be better than you were before when you were carrying a little more weight and had prepared with average nutrition and training , Canelo maybe a little lighter but he got the F1 treatment in preparation for this fight and that will make a world of difference .

If Canelo cannot make the weight and he will know within 6 hrs of the weighin he has options , lots of guys hit that point and then realize it aint going to come down and will use a diuretic , Canelo has a back door if things go wrong , he can pay the forfeit and come in at 154 .

Canelo is coming to win , he is not coming to throw the fight away on the scales , he has options and has done it before to Matt Hatton , coming in at 152 for a 150 CW , he is getting a 12 mill purse and that's got a lot of leeway to play with when looking at forfeit , if Canelo makes weight he will be ok , if he don't he knew it was going to hurt him .

The weigh-in is very significant in this .