Who has a greater legacy? Hopkins vs Jones Jr

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  • Jam Jars
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    #41
    Originally posted by windowMaker
    Jones. there is good reason Hopkins waited to move up until Jones got sparked cold
    WTF? He moved up after losing twice to Taylor nothing to do with Jones.

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    • Jam Jars
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      #42
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      The fighters Roy supposedly ducked would not come to the US to fight anyone, much less the P4P#1 fighter they were gauranteed to get humiliated by.

      -End of that discussion.

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      • GhostBlade
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        #43
        My vote goes to Hopkins. Being 48 and ranked as one of the top guys in his division is astounding.

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        • Boxing Goat
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          #44
          Originally posted by windowMaker
          Jones. there is good reason Hopkins waited to move up until Jones got sparked cold
          So true, 60-40 I'll kick yo a55!!!!!

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          • Boxing Goat
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            #45
            Originally posted by Own3d
            I'm assuming that you posted some dumb video of Roy getting knocked out or something? I can't see it here at work.

            That said, it makes no difference, Roy was better.

            This was proven in their 1st matchup when it counted.

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            • Jam Jars
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              #46
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              I'm assuming that you posted some dumb video of Roy getting knocked out or something? I can't see it here at work.

              That said, it makes no difference, Roy was better.

              This was proven in their 1st matchup when it counted.

              No its a video of Collins saying that he wanted to fight Jones and that he went to America to challenge him, followed by a clip of him doing just that at a Jones post fight interview.

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              • windowMaker
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                #47
                Originally posted by Light_Speed
                A lot of people confuse resume and ability, just because Roy was better than Hopkins prime for prime and was considered the best fighter in the world for a long time, doesn't necessarily mean his resume is actually better. I think Hopkins has the stronger resume :

                -Undisputed middleweight champion
                -Longest reigning middleweight champion
                -Lineal light-heavyweight champion
                -Oldest man in boxing history to win a world title (beat the record twice)
                -Has been fighting at the world class level for 20 years
                Vs Roy who has:

                The only fighter to start where he did and win a HW title, jump back to light heavyweight, and defend his undisputed crown.

                - Wins over Toney, Hopkins himself, Tarver, Ruiz, Griffin, Harding, Gonzales, McCallum, Johnson, Hall

                - the best H2H fighter to ever live

                - 4 titles in 4 divisions 40+ lbs apart

                - basically ruled and hardly lost rounds from the age of 16-35 yrs old

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                • GeneralZod
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by JoeKidd
                  Send Hopkins around the world and see who knows him.
                  now it'd be send Jones around the world and see who drops him.

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                  • Boxing Goat
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Own3d
                    No its a video of Collins saying that he wanted to fight Jones and that he went to America to challenge him, followed by a clip of him doing just that at a Jones post fight interview.
                    Yea, what you don't hear is that he would not accept short money when Roy was the P4P champ. Roy didn't duck him and just because he showed up to a fight means nothing. It happens all the time. Keep trying dude.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by GeneralZod
                      now it'd be send Jones around the world and see who drops him.
                      "0"

                      The number who beat Roy in his prime.

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