Cutmen -- Strong Feelings?

**Juof** · 09-02-2013, 02:21 PM

the commentators say that all the time even ricky hattons cutman was seen as a master of flesh wounds and he was a taxi driver in his day job

**Oh_Snap** · 09-02-2013, 02:51 PM

Hatton had a very good cutman. He would routinely suffer from cuts early in fights and Mick did an excellent job of keeping them in check. The fact that Hatton`s never been stopped on cuts is insane to me.

**any craic lad?** · 09-02-2013, 03:01 PM

To be fair Hattons cutman is very good.Most of the time Lampley says that it's about Joe Chavez Miguel Diaz or Rafael Garcia

**Ray Corso** · 09-02-2013, 04:23 PM

As everyone knows the corner personal can win or lose a fight if not prepared.
I often freelanced as an evaluator and cutman and always enjoyed the roll because there was no affiliation to the training o promotion of a fight.
I was tutored by two of the best in my era and always hired one or the other hen I could to work with me in my corners. Ralph Citro and Eddie Alliano were both top of the hill for cutts and bruisings. They taught me methods and techniques to use on both situations and ofcourse items to have availble in your container and on your person. Knowing how to and what to mix as a coagulant for cuts that won't work agaist the opening is essential for healing. Not doing harm in the long run is another variable. I original used a puck off a bowling machine as my enswell, it worked perfectly becuse of its angles. Knowing how to move the tool and where to move it is essental and ofcourse what pressures to use is vital or you can do more harm in a matter of seconds! There can be alot of pressure when the **** hits the fan but I always enjoyed the challenges and keeping a fighter in a fight thats winable is a great feeling. Angie Dundee was a good cutman prior to working as Pastrano & Ali's evaluator. My mentors were Eddie & Ralph they were the best!!!
Ray Corso

**Spray_resistant** · 09-02-2013, 04:34 PM

Good thread topic TS, its not talked about much but a very crucial job keeping the fighter's face intact for the duration of the fight.

Don't know who the best are though, Lamps always does say everyone is one of the best in the biz.

**Hop** · 09-02-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by Ray Corso

I often freelanced as an evaluator and cutman and always enjoyed the role because there was no affiliation to the training or promotion of a fight. I was tutored by two of the best in my era and always hired one or the other hen I could to work with me in my corners. Ralph Citro and Eddie Alliano were both top of the hill for cuts and bruisings. They taught me methods and techniques to use on both situations and of course items to have avaiable in your container and on your person. Knowing how to and what to mix as a coagulant for cuts that won't work agaist the opening is essential for healing. Not doing harm in the long run is another variable. I original used a puck off a bowling machine as my enswell, it worked perfectly because of its angles. Knowing how to move the tool and where to move it is essental and of course what pressures to use is vital or you can do more harm in a matter of seconds! I always enjoyed the challenges and keeping a fighter in a fight that's winnable is a great feeling. Angie Dundee was a good cutman prior to working as Pastrano & Ali's evaluator. My mentors were Eddie & Ralph they were the best!!!
Ray Corso

Ray, thanks so much for sharing from your own personal experience, which reflects much firsthand knowledge.

**Rockin'** · 09-02-2013, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by Hop

Just saw another fight where the boxer's corner men forgot to bring an Enswell - ! (an error made infamous in Douglas-Tyson). To me that's like a mechanic forgetting his wrench and only having pliers to do the job.

Anyway, I got to thinking about cutmen. Seems that in fight after fight that I'm watching, the commentator (like Lampley) will name the fighter's cutman and then usually say "one of the best in the business". How many "bests" can there be?

Question: Anyone here on NSB have a strong and informed opinion regarding the best cutman out there?

Thanks, just curious.

Mike Tyson, Aaron Snowell, and no Enswell

In boxing we have 72 of the best in the business in every catagory that matters............... Rockin'

**The Gambler1981** · 09-02-2013, 04:44 PM

Well if we are talking about Lampley saying that, you are talking HBO fights so obviously those guys would have (or at least should have) elite cut men. There are several.

Miguel Diaz is always the one that comes to mind but there are others.

Also this topic makes me think of when Ledermann was dogging European cut men for not using a certain substance I think it was abetine and only used adrenaline 141 so those cut men were at an extreme disadvantage because both in combination are most effective. Teddy Atlas sometimes brings that up also.

**New England** · 09-02-2013, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by Hop

Just saw another fight where the boxer's corner men forgot to bring an Enswell - ! (an error made infamous in Douglas-Tyson). To me that's like a mechanic forgetting his wrench and only having pliers to do the job.

Anyway, I got to thinking about cutmen. Seems that in fight after fight that I'm watching, the commentator (like Lampley) will name the fighter's cutman and then usually say "one of the best in the business". How many "bests" can there be?

Question: Anyone here on NSB have a strong and informed opinion regarding the best cutman out there?

Thanks, just curious.

Mike Tyson, Aaron Snowell, and no Enswell

the best in the world is stitch duran. he works in MMA. those guys get hit with elbows and open fingers. cuts are more frequent, and worse.

he works with wladimir klitschko as well. of course, wladimir never actually gets hit.

Cutmen -- Strong Feelings?