I like JMM but not wanting a 5th fight is a b1tch move

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  • mudpunch
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    #11
    I want to see a fifth. I'm a boxing fan. However I'd rather see Pac fight Floyd.

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    • KING MEAT
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      #12
      only the mexicans dont want it.

      all pacfans want revenge through a 5th fight even if pac fails.

      another loss to jmm should be the close of this chapter. that KO is not IT.


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      • IronMike86
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        #13
        I disagree with OP. Marquez feels that he won the majority of the fights against Pacquiao, as do I. He's fought him 4 times, and won 3 out of the 4 IMO, and to his, and to many other boxing fans around the world. It's very subjective.

        Now, with that being said, I'm sure there's a myriad of fans out there that believe the opposite. Either way, Marquez is at the end of his career. In his eyes, and his heart, he's buried this saga, and has put it behind him. We know he's not scared of Pacquiao. I'm sure he wants a few more title shots and wants to move on. Nothing wrong with that.

        Marquez is a true warrior, far from a coward, and to call him anything close to that is flat-out disrespectful. Don't let your love for one fighter blind you from acknowledgement of another great, perhaps hall of fame fighter.

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        • Hop
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          #14
          Originally posted by mudpunch
          I want to see a fifth. I'm a boxing fan. However I'd rather see Pac fight Floyd.
          I agree with this completely.

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          • boliodogs
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            #15
            I think Marquez should fight him again if he is well paid. Fight him in Mexico City. It's Marquez's highest possible paying fight and Pacquiao gave him a rematch when he did not have to.

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            • PAC-BOY
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              #16
              Originally posted by Sam Donald
              I thought he was a true warrior like pacman who has the mentality of just wanting to fight

              pacman didnt need 2 keep fighting him

              pac allowed him to keep having his chance, 3 times!

              jmm couldnt get the job done and now he has, hes saying thats it?

              and plus, there is definitely ped speculation around jmm..

              all of a sudden after 3 fights, he finds this insane power and looks like a juiced up beef cake
              Its hard to go along with it ...i agree. But you have to look at it in JMM eyes. he fought Manny 4 times. He only won, once. Hes happy with that! And he landed a great punch that put Manny to sleep in a fight he was AGAIN losing and getting busted up. Id love to see the 5th fight just because all their fights have delivered...despite controversial fans opinions. JMM has never been a dumb fighter. Hes got plenty of smarts. If he thought it was plausible to win again, hed take the money. He just wants to keep the memory win. Nothing wrong with that! He is far from a Coward. hes a true warrior. He fought Manny 4 times. No coward would ever do that! (IMO)

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              • FerFal'sStepDad
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                #17
                I agree. Total ***** move and I can see Pacquaio giving him a 5th fight had the tables been turned. I think JMM wants to ride out with the PEDs KO being the final chapter.

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                • edgarg
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                  It's not a b1tch move in the least. As a matter of fact not understanding why he doesn't take a 5th fight is the b1tch move.

                  Pac didn't allow him anything, the first 3 fights were very controversial, why can't you morons understand this?

                  If Pac had won CLEARLY, then you would have a point, but he didn't. The first one was a draw, then the next 2 could have literally gone either way.

                  So a 4th fight was necessary in order to END THE TRILOGY.

                  JMM knocked him out cold, it wasn't a controversial decision, it wasn't a robbery it was a clear knock out.

                  Rivalry is over, it's done, JMM won and won by KO. Get over it, move on to another subject. Because I guarantee you that if Pac was offered the Mayweather fight with no testing instead of the JMM fight, he would have denied JMM in a second and you wouldn't have the balls to call Pac a b1tch for not fighting JMM again....

                  So go away.
                  Top Rank offered Marquez a return fight right after their draw. He was offered $750,000, an insane amount at the time, and was more than the total of all Marquez's fights but together. He and Beristain turned it down and demanded $1.5 mill which I think was even more than Pacquiao was getting. I recall the interview in which Marquez-or Beristain -said "and not a cent less". So they didn't fight then, not for another 4 years.

                  In the meantime Marquez took a couple of crappy low paying fights, and then, stuck, the only fight available was one against Chris John in Jakarta, in which-according to Steve Kim, who was there at the fight, and another American reporter- he was soundly beaten-Kim said he was "well beaten". With all the urban legends which have grown up about that fight by his fans, Kim actually published articles a couple of times to debunk them. For this fight he got exactly $32,500, from which with all the splits and deductions he probably pocketed $10-15,000. It served him right. The only time he's really made money has been with Top Rank fighters, particularly MannyP.

                  His family and pension fund should make prayers to them every day.

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                  • Bushbaby
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                    #19
                    Started laughing at ped accusations surrounding Marquez. Like Pacman hasn't had any,lol!!

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                    • edgarg
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by IronMike86
                      I disagree with OP. Marquez feels that he won the majority of the fights against Pacquiao, as do I. He's fought him 4 times, and won 3 out of the 4 IMO, and to his, and to many other boxing fans around the world. It's very subjective.

                      Now, with that being said, I'm sure there's a myriad of fans out there that believe the opposite. Either way, Marquez is at the end of his career. In his eyes, and his heart, he's buried this saga, and has put it behind him. We know he's not scared of Pacquiao. I'm sure he wants a few more title shots and wants to move on. Nothing wrong with that.

                      Marquez is a true warrior, far from a coward, and to call him anything close to that is flat-out disrespectful. Don't let your love for one fighter blind you from acknowledgement of another great, perhaps hall of fame fighter.
                      I don't understand this nonsense about "love for a fighter". To me "love" means one thing only. I suppose you mean "preference" or "respect".... I hope....

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