Pacman vs Pernell Whitaker

[A-Wolf]

I'm really glad you created this thread. I missed out on the other 435 times it's been created.

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[ModernTalking]

Fantasy fight...PAC would get destroy.

[edgarg]

Whitaker, pretty handily too. The kid was a genius in there. He could stand and trade, or simply evade. Whatever he wanted to do in there, he did.

He was very good but I wouldn't call him a genius. He was blessed with very quick reflexes and supple joints. I'd call Nicolino Locche a genius and they were rare. For many of his top opponents he was not all that difficult to hit, especially to thr body. He had however an advsntage over defensive boxers in that he had a good attack and could punch. This side of his game hase often been overlooked. I'd expect in a matchup with MannyP at, say lightweight or 140 lbs it would be pretty even with him avoiding Pacquiao's right hook but not avoiding his straight left to the body. pacquiao would be very fast and also not easy to hit with his in and out herky-jerky movements and footwork. Whitaker's footwork was of a completely different type.

I don't know who'd win, I believe that it would be close whoever it would have been.

[soul_survivor]

He was very good but I wouldn't call him a genius. He was blessed with very quick reflexes and supple joints. I'd call Nicolino Locche a genius and they were rare. For many of his top opponents he was not all that difficult to hit, especially to thr body. He had however an advsntage over defensive boxers in that he had a good attack and could punch. This side of his game hase often been overlooked. I'd expect in a matchup with MannyP at, say lightweight or 140 lbs it would be pretty even with him avoiding Pacquiao's right hook but not avoiding his straight left to the body. pacquiao would be very fast and also not easy to hit with his in and out herky-jerky movements and footwork. Whitaker's footwork was of a completely different type.

I don't know who'd win, I believe that it would be close whoever it would have been.

best assessment I've read on this thread. Manny and Whitaker are well matched, it's a 50/50 for both guys. Whitaker had that insane upper body movement and would frustrate an aggressive fighter like Manny, kinda like what he did to Oscar...but it wasn't enough to win rounds. I know Whitaker was better at 140 then the version Oscar fought at 147 and he would trade with Manny more but nothing Whitaker throws can back Manny up.

Mnany would come in, throw his combos, miss some punches, move back out, Whitaker would paw with his own punches and then the process would be repeated for 12 rounds. I really can't call it, I can see both guys getting a close decision.

[Reloaded]

best assessment I've read on this thread. Manny and Whitaker are well matched, it's a 50/50 for both guys. Whitaker had that insane upper body movement and would frustrate an aggressive fighter like Manny, kinda like what he did to Oscar...but it wasn't enough to win rounds. I know Whitaker was better at 140 then the version Oscar fought at 147 and he would trade with Manny more but nothing Whitaker throws can back Manny up.

Mnany would come in, throw his combos, miss some punches, move back out, Whitaker would paw with his own punches and then the process would be repeated for 12 rounds. I really can't call it, I can see both guys getting a close decision.

Pernal would counter his head off , Manny has never seen this kind of skill , he has ducked anyone near it his whole career LOL , Pernal is a Mayweather ATG level fighter , Bradley out boxed Manny and he will be schooled with a Whitaker or Mayweather , JMM boxes life and death and KTFO , Floyd toyed with Marquez and so would Whitaker , they are flat out too stylistic skillful and complete , Manny will not beat this class of boxer in their prime , no fcking way José .

[HWChampion]

Pernal would counter his head off , Manny has never seen this kind of skill , he has ducked anyone near it his whole career LOL , Pernal is a Mayweather ATG level fighter , Bradley out boxed Manny and he will be schooled with a Whitaker or Mayweather , JMM boxes life and death and KTFO , Floyd toyed with Marquez and so would Whitaker , they are flat out too stylistic skillful and complete , Manny will not beat this class of boxer in their prime , no fcking way José .

I looked at your first comment and thought wow 8,000+ posts and zero credibility now I understand. Ok let me break this down for you.

1. Manny hasn't ducked any fighters with pernell's skill level because bar floyd I don't think anyone is that close in this era.

2. Pernell isn't a mayweather atg level fighter, it's actually the other way around floyd wishes he was as good as pernell.

3. Manny didn't get outboxed by Bradley if you think so I would recommend suicide.

4. Yes he did struggle with Marquez but that is the clash of styles, and btw it took him 3 attempts to get to manny.

5. Floyd toyed with Marquez? I don'tunderstand how this relates. A. Triangle theories don't work and B. again the style match up was the issue and if I want to not be controversial I won't mention the catch weight.

6. I don't think they are complete fighters Robinson was a complete fighter. Not atg pernell and cherry picker floyd.

So there you go I broke it down for you hope you enjoy the lesson. Jheez I feel like rigo educating an absolute moron.

[soul_survivor]

I looked at your first comment and thought wow 8,000+ posts and zero credibility now I understand. Ok let me break this down for you.

1. Manny hasn't ducked any fighters with pernell's skill level because bar floyd I don't think anyone is that close in this era.

2. Pernell isn't a mayweather atg level fighter, it's actually the other way around floyd wishes he was as good as pernell.

3. Manny didn't get outboxed by Bradley if you think so I would recommend suicide.

4. Yes he did struggle with Marquez but that is the clash of styles, and btw it took him 3 attempts to get to manny.

5. Floyd toyed with Marquez? I don'tunderstand how this relates. A. Triangle theories don't work and B. again the style match up was the issue and if I want to not be controversial I won't mention the catch weight.

6. I don't think they are complete fighters Robinson was a complete fighter. Not atg pernell and cherry picker floyd.

So there you go I broke it down for you hope you enjoy the lesson. Jheez I feel like rigo educating an absolute moron.

Good stuff, /thread

[Boxing Bob]

Whitaker vs Nelson , go watch it .

a great comparison, and I agree

[bose]

What would Wilfredo Rivera or Hurtado think? Check out his fight with Jorge Paez for some amazing defence by Jorge Paez, only man that I know of to make Whitiker look clueless at times and that never happened much in his early career (but I only got to see his career in the later stages the 90's on).

[junior gong]

Whitaker vs Nelson , go watch it .

Oh dear, reloaded. Nelson and Pac are alike, are they? What an absolutely crap comparison. You have come out with some absolute howlers and this one is up there.

Go watch it? I think you should......just take floyd's nuts out of your eye sockets first!