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  • edgarg
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    #11
    You are at an age where you should be solidifying your decisions for a life career.If you have no education, you should be getting it because it's never wasted. As for boxing, as an amateur sport under today's rules it's a very good character builder, and if you have a good gym or trainer , they/he will make sure you are never over-matched. At the same time it's important how big and heavy you are because over a certain weight even a klotz can hit you a seriously damaging blow, and you're likely never goung to be expert enough to avoid them all.

    As for turning pro...the advice you've been getting so-far are mostly from "macho" wackos. 99 of every hundred professional boxers began as children around 7-10. And only one in a thousand or maybe two or five thousand makes it to any kind of living. And consider, there's a good possibility that you can become physically injured, especially from head shots. Medical authorities have declared that over 65% of all boxers amateur and professional have suffered some form of brain damage and the BMA has been trying for over 50 years to have boxing banned. And this may not show until say, around 70 although it could be earlier. If you check out the late life of so many top fighters you'll find that in their last years, even the cleverest of them had dementia pugilistica and were helpless.

    MY OWN advice, if you're asking for it, and I'm not young at all and have seen or experienced nearly everything, is to make sure you have a good gym where the coaches keep an eye on even the sparring, because it is common for better boxers to beat up on inexperienced beginners. it gives them a great feeling. It's an occupation where you go out to maim your opponent for money to provide vicarious blood-letting for the fans, a mob.

    And you really are too late in age. Consider that even if you ever get to be a pro, at, say, 27, you will have probably 7-10 years already cut off your expected ring life, and when you've retired, what are you going to be...a cab driver, a doorman a bouncer.... what....?? You'll have to settle down and get out of the habit of travelling around the country and being able to hit the night spots and chorus girls, and you'll have no skills. THIS is what is the fate of the vast majority of fighters. I am always so sorry for them, because when you're young and strong, and active, you think it'll never end..... But it does all too quickly.

    So consider very deeply. One person gave you a proper comment; that nearly all who have the same idea go home after the first experience and never go again. Still, it's your life...... not mine.
    Last edited by edgarg; 08-26-2013, 01:15 AM. Reason: a cartoon was printed without my knowing. I erased it.

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    • JDezi4
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      #12
      You're not too old as long as you're not starting from scratch... Have u ever sparred some friends out in the street? Are you a supreme athlete in any way? What reason do you have to believe you can do it and be successful... But since its just the amateur, fuck it... Go for it

      But if you're thinking of turning pro, make sure u have a good answer to all 3 of those questions

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      • Southpawology
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        #13
        Its all what YOU put into it and how bad YOU want it

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        • Jloro
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          #14
          Originally posted by edgarg
          You are at an age where you should be solidifying your decisions for a life career.If you have no education, you should be getting it because it's never wasted. As for boxing, as an amateur sport under today's rules it's a very good character builder, and if you have a good gym or trainer , they/he will make sure you are never over-matched. At the same time it's important how big and heavy you are because over a certain weight even a klotz can hit you a seriously damaging blow, and you're likely never goung to be expert enough to avoid them all.

          As for turning pro...the advice you've been getting so-far are mostly from "macho" wackos. 99 of every hundred professional boxers began as children around 7-10. And only one in a thousand or maybe two or five thousand makes it to any kind of living. And consider, there's a good possibility that you can become physically injured, especially from head shots. Medical authorities have declared that over 65% of all boxers amateur and professional have suffered some form of brain damage and the BMA has been trying for over 50 years to have boxing banned. And this may not show until say, around 70 although it could be earlier. If you check out the late life of so many top fighters you'll find that in their last years, even the cleverest of them had dementia pugilistica and were helpless.

          MY OWN advice, if you're asking for it, and I'm not young at all and have seen or experienced nearly everything, is to make sure you have a good gym where the coaches keep an eye on even the sparring, because it is common for better boxers to beat up on inexperienced beginners. it gives them a great feeling. It's an occupation where you go out to maim your opponent for money to provide vicarious blood-letting for the fans, a mob.

          And you really are too late in age. Consider that even if you ever get to be a pro, at, say, 27, you will have probably 7-10 years already cut off your expected ring life, and when you've retired, what are you going to be...a cab driver, a doorman a bouncer.... what....?? You'll have to settle down and get out of the habit of travelling around the country and being able to hit the night spots and chorus girls, and you'll have no skills. THIS is what is the fate of the vast majority of fighters. I am always so sorry for them, because when you're young and strong, and active, you think it'll never end..... But it does all too quickly.

          So consider very deeply. One person gave you a proper comment; that nearly all who have the same idea go home after the first experience and never go again. Still, it's your life...... not mine.
          Damn guys don't put doubt in his head. Sergio started in his 20's

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          • SlySlickSmooth
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            #15
            Do it for at least a year and see how comfortable you are.

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            • Hougigo
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              #16
              Originally posted by Jloro
              Damn guys don't put doubt in his head. Sergio started in his 20's
              Sergio was at an unfair advantage though because he was a soccer player and a bicyclist... two sports that give you a hell of a lot of stamina.
              Just saying... don't know OP's life story.
              I still think there's a chance, but he shouldn't rush it

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              • RiC-DiC
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                #17
                Originally posted by Xagan
                Hi everyone,

                I'm 21 and I'm going to be starting boxing next month for the first time. Am I too old to think about training up to compete and take it seriously?

                I'm looking to become professional one day, is that completely out of the question? I understand that generally, it's impossible for you to answer this, as it'll be completely different for everyone. Bear in mind that I already have a good level of fitness, and let's just say that I take to it, I become decent at the sport quickly, and I combine that with a super good nutrition intake and lots and lots of training, is starting at the age of 21 too late to one day become a professional boxer?

                Thanks,
                Xagan
                some fighters like Hasim Rahman started around that age. Anything is possible if you stay motivated and dedicated in training, as long as you keep an open mind as to how you can constantly improve your boxing skills (defence, technique and power). Know that you might get hurt when you first start sparring. Watch tape, do what works for you; find boxers with similar builds (e.g. short legs/big torso, tall/long reach, etc) to yourself and look at how they attack and defend. Try it all out, see what you feel comfortable with, but don't stop trying to improve your technique.

                edit: and show your trainer you are hungry for fights.

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                • The Tase
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Xagan
                  Hi everyone,

                  I'm 21 and I'm going to be starting boxing next month for the first time. Am I too old to think about training up to compete and take it seriously?

                  I'm looking to become professional one day, is that completely out of the question? I understand that generally, it's impossible for you to answer this, as it'll be completely different for everyone. Bear in mind that I already have a good level of fitness, and let's just say that I take to it, I become decent at the sport quickly, and I combine that with a super good nutrition intake and lots and lots of training, is starting at the age of 21 too late to one day become a professional boxer?

                  Thanks,
                  Xagan
                  not at all. Plenty of boxers started late as already mentioned in this thread. nate campbell is another one who started late and had some success. Zhou Shiming is another one. IF you are not a complete bum athletically and actually have some physical talent you are not too late at all.

                  21 is still young. Your physical prime only happens once and you still have many years ahead of you. A regular job will always be there. Again i say all that with the thought that you have some athletic ability and not a complete fat bum who just decided to become a boxer.

                  And if you need inspiration just read this quote below:

                  Originally posted by daggum
                  i'll give you some inspiration. even though you have never stepped into the ring you are already better than andre berto and he's a multi-millionaire. never lose hope. when you are dead tired and don't want to train just think "andre berto did it, and he's a complete bum"

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                  • The Tase
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dan_cov
                    At least start training and get sparring first. You'd be amazed at how many guys I've seen over the years asking this, get punched and walk straight out the gym to never return.

                    There are many including several current world champions who didn't take up boxing until your age or older; Stevenson, Sergio Martinez come to mind. I think Tarver too though that was more a late start to the pros. Bernard Hopkins I believe was 23-25 when he turned pro

                    No 21 isn't too old but the longer you leave it the harder it'll be.
                    very good advice here.

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