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  • Sugar Adam Ali
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    #21
    Originally posted by Reloaded
    How many fight face first losers from lighter divisions ?
    How many have been put to sleep, literally put to sleep, and had a year layoff

    if floyd or froch or ward got put out and sent to dreamland, do you think they would turn around and fight some top elite guy.....

    people are holding manny to a very high standard,,,,
    Just name a fighter that got put to sleep, and had a year layoff and then their next opponent,,,, I think manny deserves a soft touch after being PUT TO SLEEP,, this wasnt just a stoppage, this was the most brutal ko in a long time and people are complaining he is fighting rios next,, rios going to bring the fight, and manny is either the same manny and ko's rios, or he is shot and pulls a roy/glen and gets ko's again...

    Remember when roy got put out, and then cameback vs 9 loss johnson,,, nobody had a problem with that, but let manny fight rios, and OMG what a cherrypicker,,,

    It would be different if manny wasnt put to sleep,,, but damn, dude was in dreamland for a few minutes,,,,
    People need to chill on the manny hate,,,

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    • Reloaded
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      #22
      Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
      How many have been put to sleep, literally put to sleep, and had a year layoff

      if floyd or froch or ward got put out and sent to dreamland, do you think they would turn around and fight some top elite guy.....

      people are holding manny to a very high standard,,,,
      Just name a fighter that got put to sleep, and had a year layoff and then their next opponent,,,, I think manny deserves a soft touch after being PUT TO SLEEP,, this wasnt just a stoppage, this was the most brutal ko in a long time and people are complaining he is fighting rios next,, rios going to bring the fight, and manny is either the same manny and ko's rios, or he is shot and pulls a roy/glen and gets ko's again...

      Remember when roy got put out, and then cameback vs 9 loss johnson,,, nobody had a problem with that, but let manny fight rios, and OMG what a cherrypicker,,,

      It would be different if manny wasnt put to sleep,,, but damn, dude was in dreamland for a few minutes,,,,
      People need to chill on the manny hate,,,
      Your missing the point , no need to fight losers that's just baring your ass to boxing , the thread topic is about bad match making , and he is now fighting A) a loser , B) a smaller division loser , C ) Roach admitted the only reason they chose Rios is to make Manny look good .

      He could have fought Alvarez , or at least a WW , saying he wanted Bradley and Juan when it suited him is just a cop out , he wasn't there when they wanted it .

      Is it hate or people are just sick of the shady match making in 99% of Mannys WW run , I hate Mannys fans not Manny , but I can sure see what has gone on since Diaz .

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      • Tylotto
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        #23
        Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
        How many have been put to sleep, literally put to sleep, and had a year layoff

        if floyd or froch or ward got put out and sent to dreamland, do you think they would turn around and fight some top elite guy.....

        people are holding manny to a very high standard,,,,
        Just name a fighter that got put to sleep, and had a year layoff and then their next opponent,,,, I think manny deserves a soft touch after being PUT TO SLEEP,, this wasnt just a stoppage, this was the most brutal ko in a long time and people are complaining he is fighting rios next,, rios going to bring the fight, and manny is either the same manny and ko's rios, or he is shot and pulls a roy/glen and gets ko's again...

        Remember when roy got put out, and then cameback vs 9 loss johnson,,, nobody had a problem with that, but let manny fight rios, and OMG what a cherrypicker,,,

        It would be different if manny wasnt put to sleep,,, but damn, dude was in dreamland for a few minutes,,,,
        People need to chill on the manny hate,,,
        Johnson was a champion in Roy's division. Is it to much to ask for Manny to fight a champion or a top 10 WW?

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          #24
          Originally posted by Tylotto
          Johnson was a champion in Roy's division. Is it to much to ask for Manny to fight a champion or a top 10 WW?
          Its not too much at all for fighter of the decade .

          Even this Rios fight has underhanded motives behind it , the idea is so Manny can get a big KO to shoe horn himself into a big cash out fight , so in other words sneak in the back door whip a duck and talk big about wanting a mega fight with the best of the back of a B grader , Arum is pulling the strings and Arum don't give a fck about anything but his own pockets .

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          • ADP02
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            #25
            Originally posted by torosboxing75
            People like to exaggerate a bit.
            I just came out of a thread where the Floyd fan was trying to convince us that Guerrero was legit because he beat Berto even though everyone is beating Berto.

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            • Sugar Adam Ali
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              #26
              Originally posted by Tylotto
              Johnson was a champion in Roy's division. Is it to much to ask for Manny to fight a champion or a top 10 WW?
              ok, good point

              Originally posted by Reloaded
              Your missing the point , no need to fight losers that's just baring your ass to boxing , the thread topic is about bad match making , and he is now fighting A) a loser , B) a smaller division loser , C ) Roach admitted the only reason they chose Rios is to make Manny look good .

              He could have fought Alvarez , or at least a WW , saying he wanted Bradley and Juan when it suited him is just a cop out , he wasn't there when they wanted it .

              Is it hate or people are just sick of the shady match making in 99% of Mannys WW run , I hate Mannys fans not Manny , but I can sure see what has gone on since Diaz .
              I have no problem with 2 action fighters coming off losses, fighting each other,,,

              You want him to fight alveraz,,, floyd is on a 44 fight win streak and wants canelo at a CW, but you think manny should fight him coming off a year layoff and a nap in his last fight.....

              Rios is coming up in weight, so what,, you act like manny is this big natural welter, when he is the same size as manny

              And you say he should fight bradley, but bradley the champ and is fighting the guy that put manny to sleep.....

              You can complain about the mosely and margs fights, thats legit,,, but that was a winning manny,,, not manny that had been put to sleep and year layoff,, i think manny-rios is a great action fight,,, and will really tell where manny is at mentally and physically

              Rios was just chosen to make manny look good,,, like manny is the first guy to do that......
              remember when floyd fought a stretch of fights with sosa, ndou, corley, bruscles, gatti, shambra,,, all designed to make floyd look good,,,

              or when oscar got stopped by hopkins, took a long layoff and fought mayorga who hadnt won a big fight in 3 years,,,
              Its ok for all of them to do it, but not manny.....

              The only crap fights manny has had was shane,,, margs at least brought a huge size advantage and always came to fight,,, unlike shane

              fighting jmm, then bradley, then jmm again is top level fights,,, he got ko'd badly, took a year off, and is fighting a guy his size coming off a loss, in what should be an action packed fight,,,,,
              If manny was fighting pauli would that make you feel better,,,,

              Who should have manny fought off his brutal loss to jmm

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              • Sugar Adam Ali
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                #27
                Everyone should quit saying fighter of the decade,,,

                that ended 4 years ago,,,, Ali was fighter of the decade of the 70s he was getting beat up by holmes and berbick,,, Does ali suck because of that,, NO

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Reloaded
                  Its not too much at all for fighter of the decade .

                  Even this Rios fight has underhanded motives behind it , the idea is so Manny can get a big KO to shoe horn himself into a big cash out fight , so in other words sneak in the back door whip a duck and talk big about wanting a mega fight with the best of the back of a B grader , Arum is pulling the strings and Arum don't give a fck about anything but his own pockets .
                  Rios is option #3 for Manny

                  Again, what was Floyd's excuse for fighting all these fighters at WW where they did practically NOTHING!

                  - Hatton - 1 fight at WW (King at 140 but Floyd fights him at 147)
                  - Marquez - 0 fights at JWW and WW (year before was fighting at 130 )
                  - Sharmba -1 fight against a noname
                  - Ortiz - 1 fight at WW (against Berto - everyone can get thru his defense)
                  - Guerrero - 2 fight at WW (against Berto - everyone can get thru his defense)

                  - Khan - 0 fights at WW was supposed to be Floyd's next opponent last year but Garcia saved us from that. Floyd's team and GB is still pushing for this.

                  Guerrero admitted to Floyd's cherry picking. Kinda tells it all!

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                  • UltimateHater38
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                    #29
                    It is Not America's Fault the Novelty is Done YOU AINT AMERICAN SO GUESS WHAT? LOL YOU STILL A BAD NAME IN THEY EYES LOL

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ADP02
                      I just came out of a thread where the Floyd fan was trying to convince us that Guerrero was legit because he beat Berto even though everyone is beating Berto.
                      If I were you, I'll just ignore the village idiot (reloaded) posts. I think something's wrong with the guy and believe it or not even the die-hard Floyd fans disown him.

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