Comments Thread For: De La Hoya: Mares Can Be The Pound For Pound King

[hitking]

You're ignorant to Ward's accomplishments in the ring as a pro and what they mean. It's like all the people trying to discredit what GGG is doing. His resume is debatable but that's mainly because top dudes don't want to suffer that. If you know boxing and look at how he fights it's clear that he's not a hype job and loaded with talent. He just hasn't got the right opportunity to prove himself against the top guys like Ward has. How many fighters call out anyone from the division they are in plus the ones below and above them?

GGG hasn't fought anyone and no one is ducking him. He's a very good fighter that people are prematurely annointing great and his groupies get butt hurt when someone doesn't have their lips plantly on the guy's balls. Get a grip.

[Bigg Rigg]

Who's your #2 P4P?

You and so many others will laugh but I got Wladimir #2.

[Bigg Rigg]

You're ignorant to Ward's accomplishments in the ring as a pro and what they mean. It's like all the people trying to discredit what GGG is doing. His resume is debatable but that's mainly because top dudes don't want to suffer that. If you know boxing and look at how he fights it's clear that he's not a hype job and loaded with talent. He just hasn't got the right opportunity to prove himself against the top guys like Ward has. How many fighters call out anyone from the division they are in plus the ones below and above them?

His 3 best wins are Froch who is over rated. Kessler who he head butted like crazy and Dawson who to his own fault was a skeleton at 168. Ward is good but I don't see him as the best fighter in the world the way so many do. Got him 4th behind Floyd, Wladimir and Marquez.

[hitking]

You and so many others will laugh but I got Wladimir #2.

He's basically done the exact same thing Ward has. Cleaned out his division. Of course, his division is one of the weakest in boxing and he's been KTFO couple times whil Ward is pretty much untested. But hey, everybody's list is their own. Wlad is on my list, but definitely in the bottom half.

[hitking]

His 3 best wins are Froch who is over rated. Kessler who he head butted like crazy and Dawson who to his own fault was a skeleton at 168. Ward is good but I don't see him as the best fighter in the world the way so many do. Got him 4th behind Floyd, Wladimir and Marquez.

There are positives and negatives to every opponent. You're basically giving Ward the Mayweather treatment and highlighting all the negatives about his opponents. What I think you're failing to realize is that you can do the same thing to every fighter. Nobody's resume is bulletproof. And often times in boxing. Fans totally flip their opinion pre and postfight. Take Mayweather-Mosley for example. Going into the fight. Floyd's critics claimed he wouldn't even fight Mosley and that he appeared afraid when Mosley crashed the JMM postfight interview. Mosley was the consensus P4P #3. And even though fans weren't split 50/50, a lotta people were picking Mosley. But after Floyd dominates him, all Floyd's critics flip and claim he beat an old man, completely past it, coming off a layoff, etc. Its easy to **** on a fight in retrospect. And many fans do that when a fight's result isn't what they wantedm

[aces725]

P4p

You and so many others will laugh but I got Wladimir #2.

Idk about 2 but I have him in my top 10 for sure .. It ain't his fault the division is weak , he's been dominant for years he deserves recognition .. One of the most under rated fighters of our time ..

[Bigg Rigg]

He's basically done the exact same thing Ward has. Cleaned out his division. Of course, his division is one of the weakest in boxing and he's been KTFO couple times whil Ward is pretty much untested. But hey, everybody's list is their own. Wlad is on my list, but definitely in the bottom half.

Yeah but he's done it longer. That's why I rank him higher.

[hitking]

Yeah but he's done it longer. That's why I rank him higher.

Yeah, but Ward hasn't been concussed by mediocre fighters like Corrie Sanders (RIP) and Lamon Brewster (I'm jealous he used to **** Pam from Martin). Also, Ward hasn't had a tag team partner (Big Bro) to take on and eliminate the styles that could be troubling to him. See how this works. Its a never ending debate. Hence, why the P4P ratings are mythical and more times than not turns into a popularity contest.

[$Bullsfam$]

Fact he could be. I think he'd need to beat Rigo to do it. Maybe Garcia for some hard headed fools


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[Bigg Rigg]

Yeah, but Ward hasn't been concussed by mediocre fighters like Corrie Sanders (RIP) and Lamon Brewster (I'm jealous he used to **** Pam from Martin). Also, Ward hasn't had a tag team partner (Big Bro) to take on and eliminate the styles that could be troubling to him. See how this works. Its a never ending debate. Hence, why the P4P ratings are mythical and more times than not turns into a popularity contest.

Wlad was on top of his division before ward got on and has stay on top. That's why I got him ahead.