Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux Vows: I'm The Champ, Style Won't Change!

[HeroBando]

This.

Ward is much more boring than Rigo who has floored every opponent but Donaire who swarfed him by cheating the scales on fight night. Ward's performance against Dawson was an aberration as was Rigondeaux's failure to floor Donaire.

One thing for sure, Rigo is gonna be on a mission from here on out to assert a more dominant style of offensive aggression. Just you watch and see - Rigo will blitz his future opposition with early stoppages

Ward is:

1. American, good on the mic
2. A decent local draw
3. In a weight class that would get TV time regardless. HBO never showed fights below feather, until Donaire crossed over from Showtime

[brick wall]

he might want to reconsider that. his situation is more complicated than what he thought.

first of all he hasn't really shown that he can headline a card unless he's the b-side of the main bout like the donaire fight. his win over donaire should have brought him to that level but unfortunately for him it didn't. he's still a undercard-level fighter.

and whether he likes it or not the reason for that is his style. his style is really just for hardcore boxing fans to appreciate. but boxing would not thrive with just hardcore fans alone...you have to attract the casuals too and networks like hbo will always consider that. if a fighter doesn't have that ability, hbo will not give you any priority.

another thing is his purse expectations. after getting $750K against donaire, rigo must be expecting to get that amount or even higher. that could be one of the reasons why hbo is hesitant on giving him a slot so rigo might wanna reconsider asking that much as well.

also, rigo's style is not appealing to other fighters to want to fight him. a fighter with his skills but who doesn't want to lead will always be hard to beat. he waits and watches his opponent to take the risk while he takes his sweet time to counter and capitalize on his opponent's mistakes. it's really hard for anyone to take your chances against a fighter with that kind of fighting style.

there are also other fighters who are getting avoided like rigo but in a different way. golovkin comes to mind but unlike rigo he has the full backing of hbo. they can offer huge amount to anybody who wants to fight him...something that you can't expect from a rigo fight. another big difference of course is that golovkin's style is a fans' delight.

in the end, it's still up to rigo whether to keep his style or change it a little bit...he can't complain thought if doesn't really works.

[PACnPBFsuck]

The real point is that no one here opposed to Rigo's "style" ever argued that exist an opponent today able to win Rigo. Not Mares, Not Agbeco, No Darchinian, No Nonito again etc. My only satisfaction with Rigo is that even his best detractors agree that he is THE BEST, THE MOST. When I see that the only possible critic is his style it means that all who are oppose to him has no real argument and deep agree that he is the best. No one here said that he has a real opponent and the truth is that everybody is ducking him

Truth hurts dude, truth is HBO wants every weekend to go like this past weekend.

You act like HBO really cares what goes on in this site, that network is only concerned about ratings. HBO is in the process of getting pummeled by Showtime and they want to go stride for stride with them, they don't care about resume, they just want 2 dudes to go at it, more offense and less defense.

They put Rigo in there, the probability of a dull fight is very high, hell Agbeko wants to fight him and he still calls him boring and that's another boxer saying that about someone else in his craft.

He's the best In the division, dudes are ducking him, and JuanMa is already scheduled to fight before him, if ya can't see where HBO is going, then ya need to pull ya heads out of ya asses.

[RSBonos]

I'm sick of the victim card. He gets offered a fight and turns it down, nobody is banning him from anything. He probably wants big money for Agbeko and such, fights people don't want to see. You guys are living in dreamland thinking that GBP will make him a star.

[Check_hooks]

HBO is in the process of getting pummeled by Showtime and they want to go stride for stride with them,

Name all the fights that did over 1 million viewers from SHO and name all the from that did over 1 million viewers from HBO in the last 2 years and tell me how HBO is getting pummeled.

Name one fight in SHO history that was as good as Bradley vs Prov.

I bet you won't do either

[PACnPBFsuck]

Name all the fights that did over 1 million viewers from SHO and name all the from that did over 1 million viewers from HBO in the last 2 years and tell me how HBO is getting pummeled.

Name one fight in SHO history that was as good as Bradley vs Prov.

I bet you won't do either

Hey smart guy, every person you're thinking about is Showtime now.

And Castillo vs Corralles or Izzy Vazquez vs Marquez 1-3 shyt all over Bradley vs Prov, smart guy.

[Stuntman Mike]

I do not understand how people did not enjoy his fight with Donaire,it was a clinic,i was in aww and i was rooting for Donaire...some people need to find another sport to watch

The most exciting fight of the year for me so far.. both of them combined in the ring was out of this world and you would sturggle to find two gifted guys fighting one another I'm just glad I enjoyed it but i guess if i had a soft spot for Donaire it might make me undervalue it

[Black Barty]

Rigo needs to understand two things imo:

1) Being a really good boxer is only one aspect of stardom - the most important one, but still only one. If he wants to be a star, he should put in the work between fights, too.

2) On the one hand, the fans have no right to demand that he change his style that has worked so well for him. But on the other, the fans don't owe him (or any other boxer) a living. Call them ******, noobs or whatever all you want, they are the ones who ultimately pay the bills, and if Rigo wants them to spend their hard earned cash on seeing him, he should give them what they want. Tim Bradley did just that, and resurrected his career with it.

Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but respect for Rigo as a boxer and personally don't have a problem with his style, but I'm not too fond of his apparent sense of entitlement.

[Check_hooks]

Hey smart guy, every person you're thinking about is Showtime now.

And Castillo vs Corralles or Izzy Vazquez vs Marquez 1-3 shyt all over Bradley vs Prov, smart guy.

You got me on the Corrales vs JLC fight. But that was in 05 which was 8 years ago. The Bradley vs Prov fight was in March which was 5 MONTHS ago.

Heres a recent list of over 1 million views for HBO and SHO

HBO
1. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Marco Antonio Rubio, Feb. 4, HBO, 1.9 million
2. Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson, April 28, HBO, 1.6 million
3. Chavez Jr.-Andy Lee, June 16, HBO, 1.4 million
4. Adrien Broner-Vicente Escobedo, July 21, HBO, 1.4 million
6. Nonito Donaire-Jorge Arce, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
7. Andre Ward-Chad Dawson, Sept. 8, HBO, 1.3 million
8. Floyd Mayweather-Cotto PPV replay, May 12, HBO, 1.3 million
9. Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez PPV replay, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
10. Danny Garcia-Amir Khan, July 14, HBO, 1.3 million
11. Erik Morales-Garcia I, March 24, HBO, 1.2 million
12. Robert Guerrero-Andre Berto, Nov. 24, HBO, 1.1 million
13. Marcos Maidana-Devon Alexander, Feb. 25, HBO, 1.1 million
14. Broner-Antonio Demarco, Nov. 17, HBO, 1.1 million
15. Sergio Martinez-Matthew Macklin, March 17, HBO, 1.1 million


SHO
5. Miguel Cotto-Austin Trout, Dec. 1, Showtime, 1.4 million
16. Canelo Alvarez-Josesito Lopez, Sept. 15, Showtime, 1.0 million

As you can see, HBO is dominating SHO and is actually making a profit on the year. SHO is so far in the red than I don't even think they will show boxing in the next 2-3 years.

[PACnPBFsuck]

You got me on the Corrales vs JLC fight. But that was in 05 which was 8 years ago. The Bradley vs Prov fight was in March which was 5 MONTHS ago.

Heres a recent list of over 1 million views for HBO and SHO

HBO
1. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.-Marco Antonio Rubio, Feb. 4, HBO, 1.9 million
2. Bernard Hopkins-Chad Dawson, April 28, HBO, 1.6 million
3. Chavez Jr.-Andy Lee, June 16, HBO, 1.4 million
4. Adrien Broner-Vicente Escobedo, July 21, HBO, 1.4 million
6. Nonito Donaire-Jorge Arce, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
7. Andre Ward-Chad Dawson, Sept. 8, HBO, 1.3 million
8. Floyd Mayweather-Cotto PPV replay, May 12, HBO, 1.3 million
9. Manny Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez PPV replay, Dec. 15, HBO, 1.3 million
10. Danny Garcia-Amir Khan, July 14, HBO, 1.3 million
11. Erik Morales-Garcia I, March 24, HBO, 1.2 million
12. Robert Guerrero-Andre Berto, Nov. 24, HBO, 1.1 million
13. Marcos Maidana-Devon Alexander, Feb. 25, HBO, 1.1 million
14. Broner-Antonio Demarco, Nov. 17, HBO, 1.1 million
15. Sergio Martinez-Matthew Macklin, March 17, HBO, 1.1 million


SHO
5. Miguel Cotto-Austin Trout, Dec. 1, Showtime, 1.4 million
16. Canelo Alvarez-Josesito Lopez, Sept. 15, Showtime, 1.0 million

As you can see, HBO is dominating SHO and is actually making a profit on the year. SHO is so far in the red than I don't even think they will show boxing in the next 2-3 years.

But you're naming big name in the past, if you look at the non-PPV coming up, Chavez and Donaire are the biggest name in the next 4 months for HBO.

Showtime is gonna have to get their sales up, but in terms of quality of fights, SHO>>>>HBO.

And most of those dudes on your list are on SHO now.