Mares looing big now with new coach, when will PED accusations start?

[wizard king]

he walks around 140-142....how come ppl **** on donaire non stop for walking around that same weight, but not mares??

Maybe because donaire is taller and his frame is big compare to the midgets he was ktfo

[TheMexHurricane]

The Mexiphobes can't resist the immediate gratification and aren't being cerebral about the complexities of long term effects.

[radioraheem]

yah except he's doing all year round testing (which started back in jun or july of last year)....and donaire didn't show any significant improvement in his power...just look at his one punch KO of darchinyan which was before conte..and darchinyan has not been stopped since despite the fact that he moved up from flyweight all the way to super bantamweight...

marquez at age 39 hooked up with heredia who tried to conceal his identity by changing his name but only got exposed soon after...and then he gained enormous one punch KO power demonstrated by knocking down and knocking out pac which he couldn't do in his PRIME..again all at age 39...

can't wait for marquez to volunteer for all year round testing to prove he and heredia are doing things clean...

and conte isn't a steroid chemist....

It doesn't matter if Juan Marquez or Nonito Donaire does year-round testing because when they are out of competition, the results can basically be concealed if they want. Also, if they turn up positive out of competition, there will be no penalty from any boxing commission. So doing year-round testing is basically useless and would only be done for 'show.'

Year-round testing will only carry meaning if NSAC takes their newly formed random drug testing to a new level -- doing it year-round while fighters are out of competition. Because if they are caught, there will at least be a penalty from NSAC and the positive will be made public. And this is despite the fact that NSAC isn't the most 'clean' acting organization.

And year-round testing only works if all fighters are doing the same thing. If Juan Marquez is doing it and his opponents are not doing it, what is the damn point? The purpose of the testing is to protect against other fighters and vice-versa.

[BoxingGenius27]

Says he will move up in weight soon

It will start when he declines testing

[TheMexHurricane]

Lets see, we have Vargas, Morales, Salido, Mosley, Holyfield, RJJ, Toney, Guillermo Jones, Vitali, Peterson, Berto, Mickey Bey, Gamboa, tons more testing positive, admitting, or heavily implicated. Tons more fighters suspected. And you think the problem goes away if Pac is exposed? GTFO dumba$$

None of those guys achieved anywhere near the fame and fortune that Pac did. Despite the brutality of boxing it's participants were always the most noble of all sportsmen. Pac has changed the heart of boxing and the heart of boxers because he made it OK to cheat.

[TheMexHurricane]

Lets see, we have Vargas, Morales, Salido, Mosley, Holyfield, RJJ, Toney, Guillermo Jones, Vitali, Peterson, Berto, Mickey Bey, Gamboa, tons more testing positive, admitting, or heavily implicated. Tons more fighters suspected. And you think the problem goes away if Pac is exposed? GTFO dumba$$

I should expound a little. If you're a boxer and you see Pac get away with cheating and become world famous and ****** rich-- it will seem to you that it's OK to cheat. It's too much temptation. The heart of boxing and the boxers has been corrupted.

[HeroBando]

None of those guys achieved anywhere near the fame and fortune that Pac did. Despite the brutality of boxing it's participants were always the most noble of all sportsmen. Pac has changed the heart of boxing and the heart of boxers because he made it OK to cheat.

Never heard of Holyfield? There's several ATGs right there, and lots more under su****ion, including most of the current p4p elite. Lots of smoke around Mayweather, for example. Not to single him out, you also gotta wonder about JMM, Pac, Sergio, Ward, Broner, Donaire, Hopkins, Klits, Haye, Canelo (went looking for Memo), Quillin, lots more. And maybe Mares as well.

[radioraheem]

I should expound a little. If you're a boxer and you see Pac get away with cheating and become world famous and ****** rich-- it will seem to you that it's OK to cheat. It's too much temptation. The heart of boxing and the boxers has been corrupted.

Regardless of Pacquaio, there will be boxers who will try to cheat. In every business, there are always those who will try to cheat.

[TheMexHurricane]

Never heard of Holyfield? There's several ATGs right there, and lots more under su****ion, including most of the current p4p elite. Lots of smoke around Mayweather, for example. Not to single him out, you also gotta wonder about JMM, Pac, Sergio, Ward, Broner, Donaire, Hopkins, Klits, Haye, Canelo (went looking for Memo), Quillin, lots more. And maybe Mares as well.

Sure, but but they didn't achieve Pac's fame. Pac dodged PED tests for the whole world to see and his fame and fortune increased. That sent the message that it was OK to cheat. The other guys BEFORE Pac didn't affect the idea of cheating the same way.

[TheMexHurricane]

Regardless of Pacquaio, there will be boxers who will try to cheat. In every business, there are always those who will try to cheat.

Of course but Pac made it OK to cheat.