Comments Thread For: Nacho: The Only Way To Beat Mayweather is With a Bat!

[IIocano]

Yes! I can definitely vouch for nacho cause he mayfeather dont want to be seeing me.

[KickAzz]

Cherrypicker would cherrypick or weight drain or wait for the bat to be past his prime so he'd win

[GRUSTLER]

Because he had to. But I do respect he took the Castillo rematch, however that **** was pretty much a draw. Floyd took no risks in that fight like he's never taken a risk since. Well, he did open up and take a risk against Chop Chop Corley before getting his chin checked.

Doesn't matter because you said Castillo made Floyd not take a risk after they first fought but Floyd fought him immediately and beat him plain and simple. Are you calling the rematch a draw?

[ADP02]

Cotto-even said he never pursuded a fight with floyd

Kostya-was injured and lost to hatton then retired

Margo-arum didnt give floyd what he wanted to resign so he left and went on to become the highest paid athlete ever

Mosley-had a tooth ache

Williams-was a damn prospect


Manny-no drug testing and a stadium had to be built



son get you facts straight

I think you need to get your facts straight!

Lets start with Floyd vs Cotto:

"Floyd is NOT interested in a potential fight with WBA champ Cotto ..."

"Mayweather gave us his thoughts on Cotto trying to lure Floyd into a fight ...."

http://www.boxingscene.com/mayweathe...beat-me--11721

[Rolaz]

if you believe what Nacho is saying then, he should teach Canelo how to use his punch like a BAT PUNCH hitting all the way to the body not the face! Hit the body not the face...

[tangalog2200]

Now the next 100 pages will be that Nacho is training a PED cheat and Floyds a cherrypicker.

nope......

nacho could not say one (sounds like juan) needs a "lucky" punch to beat floydie.....

so he uses the need for a bat to cover his failure to train jmm properly on getting "lucky" during floyd's schooling of juan years back

[twosweethooks]

[QUOTE=Reloaded;13671103]Gameness is a state of mind and gameness is as gameness does , for instance a foxhound can track and chase a quarry until it drops dead that's a form of gameness because that is what he was bred to do , follow game and not give in until catching it , a racehorse turning for home that tries harder when another horse heads him in the straight is a form of gameness , then you have a pit bull that will fight to the death and go back to the fight even though it knows it is being killed , most performance animals that are game are winners in what ever field you put them , man selectively breeds for gameness in all things in life especially under competition , because the true meaning of gameness is the will to win , the will conquer the task

I like what you said !!

Lets continue the conversation and use the bulldogs ( pitbulls)

For those that hate bulldogs or dogmen please just pass this up.

The similarities are amazing between dog and man. Some dogs will fight for ten mins like a circle saw ( I DON"T FIGHT DOGS) then QUIT on top. Dog men raise a dog and find out if that dog will quit by difficult tests. Things they watch for is any hesitation to fight or get out of the fight. The test might be done in over 100 degree heat when the dog is fat, and goes against three dogs one after the other mainly on his back and tested to see if he wants to continue. IF he stands in the corner when released or hesitates he won't make the grade. A cur will do things to get out of a fight, like try to bluff his way by GROWLING. IF a bulldog growls at another dog to stop a fight or lets say DUCK a fight, he has fear and WILL QUIT. A man will do all he can do to get out of a fight if he is not game.

Growling is Bluff
Men growl hahah, they TRASH TALK, try to get in yer face , try to back you down, real dogs stare with no grimmace to back anyone down, they stare with no teeth showing, curs will show their teeth, game dogs mean business. They are silent and when released come forth with a vengence, they don't run from the other.

Any outward sign that a dog does like raise his hackles, the hair at the base of the tail stand straight out are signs of bluff and a sign he doesn't want it. Bluff !!!

Real game bulldogs will do none of the above, they love the trenches, they can be on the bottom and their tail will be wagging and believe they are winning, their mind is not turned by pain or fatigue from heat and fatigue will test a dog or man as quick as anything.

you gave examples let me give two.

The Black Mamba ol Roger himself: Watch that last fight with Chavez, Chavez 2, the round before he QUIT. He was frustrated, knew he was losing and couldn't win , taken to the trenches and may have felt he was gonna get KO'ed again. HE did something in that round before he quit that made me laugh, he tried to intimate Chavez by bouncing around and doing the Ali shuffle !!!! I don't expect many to get it but that was a sign of pure bluff and the proof is in the next round, sitting on the stool with his head hanging down.

Holyfield Tyson 1, the 11th round ? Holy cracked Tyson and Tyson did a perfect cur dog maneuver , HE turned from HOLY and ran to the ropes , AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HA !!! Cur dogs TURN due to a thought of QUITTING. A friend said boy Tyson is going to Kill HOLY in the next fight, I said NOPE gonna QUIT QUICKER,,,curs always quick quicker,,,ALWAYS

Dogs are programed at conception and men test them because he don't know if the dog is game or not.

There have been dogs who were so good they could win fights and keep killers from getting to them. Far and few between

BUT

there is some dog out there that can get to him. I have seen it. IT took a while but it happens.

There are some men that are so good they can keep the average fighter OFF him and he will look supreme. good ole JR is that man !!!!!

What we don't know from Jr yet is, is he game ? We don't KNOW, no one has taken him to the trenches to test his heart deep in the fight where he no longer is frustrating his opponent and you spoke of this, so we don't know if he will QUIT like his Uncle or he will stay and fight it out

My Problem with Jr is all the Cur signs, I see them I hear them. I saw it in the face off with Mosely when he looked scared and jumped back throwing up his fist.

Let me be plain, I think Jr is the best pure boxer on the planet, But , I DOUBT his heart , his gameness, and for three or 4 years I have wanted to see him face someone who will test him and that is PAC

ONLY a cur will duck,,, JR is the DUCK, its all in his signs , he bluffs , he trash talks or growls, he is bent out of shape, he is not calm and collected, he lies ,says one thing , my next fight is Pac, then the next day he said I never said that. I watch for those things. I see those things, and I KNOW those things.

I say He may beat Canelo by frustrating him like he does everyone, but what will he do if Canelo turns this thing around and all of sudden He can't do what he has always done , and taken deep in the fight deep in the trenches where he is getting beat close to getting KO'd after taking a beating, what will he do is my question.

From all I see , I think he will QUIT. I have believed it for years now due to all the signs.

I can be wrong, men are not dogs.

some of the gamest men I have ever seen fight were Foreman LYLE , and the trilla in Manila

Jr seems to fear a fight like those 4 men had

More can be said

we will see,

[twosweethooks]

Yeah! Like getting knocked out cold. Bet Floyd will never do that better than Pac.

WOW , Grustler you haven't responded to one of my post in two years mang. hahahahaha

Hard to KO a RUNNER you ought to KNOW That ?

[twosweethooks]

Doesn't matter because you said Castillo made Floyd not take a risk after they first fought but Floyd fought him immediately and beat him plain and simple. Are you calling the rematch a draw?

All but floyd huggers KNOW jr lost that first Castillo fight

[twosweethooks]

The end to Nachos conversation is plain, he don't have a plan on how to beat JR , but, that is not to say OTHER trainers don't have a plan.

We will see if Canelos trainer can put the correct plan together to take jr to the trenches in the late rounds and see what he will do when that bat is being applied to his nice head AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I love it !!!!!!

I want to see if JR will CUR out or stay and fight it OUT, have his exits shut down and get down off his runners and FIGHT because he HAS TOO ! hahaha I do love it !!!!!