I am truly getting sick of refs

[Frank Ducketts]

stopping their count even when a guy wobbles on his way up.

Why are you counting Mr Ref if you're not going to finish your count?

A fighter who goes down should have 8-10 seconds to recover even if he's falling again and trying his darndest to get up, and then be judged by the ref. Fighters can't even go down anymore without a ref stopping the damn fight.

Refs are given too much power to stop fights when a fighter goes down, and is trying to get up. I can't even remember when there was EVER a difference in seconds that saved a fighters life between the refs count and doctors runing into the ring.

I miss Mills Lane. He counted Berbick out when other refs would've stopped at 3 probably.

The kid Jacobs put down deserved the full count to recover. I am truly sick of this crap. Then these new school kids wonder why us old hard hats are always arguing about today and yesterday.

[Russian Crushin]

I agree with the refs having too much power in fights but Lorenzo's eyes were in the back of his head and he went face first into the canvas

[Sugar Adam Ali]

There has been a alot of bad ref'ing lately,,,

I dont think this was a super bad stoppage,, the kid got rocked and went down face first, but yes he should have probably gotten a better count

[Frank Ducketts]

I agree with the refs having too much power in fights but Lorenzo's eyes were in the back of his head and he went face first into the canvas

I saw that, but Rus, he still deserved a count. He was trying to clear his head. He deserved a count at least.

[Frank Ducketts]

There has been a alot of bad ref'ing lately,,,

I dont think this was a super bad stoppage,, the kid got rocked and went down face first, but yes he should have probably gotten a better count

That's all Adam. Just count. I say this because what if a guy pulls a Bruce Seldon and then jumps up thinking that the ref is still counting. Now that's rare, but a ref should count anyway, that way there is no wiggle room for anyone to question the refs decision.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

yeah, unless the dude is completely out like manny-jmm or manny-hatton guys do deserve a count,,,

look at what barker did after almost being counted out,,,

[Frank Ducketts]

Recuperative powers is a forgone conclusion in boxing. You gotta jump up the minute you go down from a hellacious shot these days.

This is boxing, not ping pong.

[Frank Ducketts]

yeah, unless the dude is completely out like manny-jmm or manny-hatton guys do deserve a count,,,

look at what barker did after almost being counted out,,,

Good, wait...great point!

[deanrw]

There should be more Ref's like Terry O'Connor. He had the heart to carry Cleverly back to his corner and restarting the fight after stopping it. That is a caring ref. One who admitted his mistake

[El Angel]

I agree that fighters deserve a full count most of the time, Barker got up on 9 and went on to win a MW title. But Lorenzo tonight, I'm not gonna complain too much. You see a guy go down like that, you want the doctor in as soon as possible.