Speed does not make a fighter,nor does power

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  • MRBOOMER
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    #21
    Originally posted by Szef99
    You mean overrated....I really like Carl but he's a mediocre boxer in my opinion: poor jab, footwork, skills but good power and great chin. But mentaly he's a ****in badass...that's why I like him.
    His jab is pretty good for what he uses it for. its a range finder and nothing else really it also keeps guys honest and he can dictate the pace with it. Snappy and flashy no but effective yes.

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    • tangalog2200
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      #22
      Originally posted by Verstyle
      It seems people focus to much on these things and think these are the determining factors in fights.Boxing is not that simple,there are so many intangibles especially when you get to the elite level where EVERYONE CAN FIGHT. In my opinion the mental aspect is the most important thing,how mentally tough you are,how well you can think even when tired or hurt. The mental aspect is what separates world champions from contenders,and World champions from the elite p4p fighters.
      the heart, not the mental aspect...is the most telling factor of all....

      when one fighter lost heart, the mind won't work...and of course all skills become nothing more than useless heavy armor that drag down a fighter to a lost cause

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #23
        Speed and power are easy things to understand they are up there in neon lights, that is why all big time prospects always have one or the other and possibly both because those are easy things to understand and are a good place to start then you figure out if a guy has the things that are harder to understand.

        The mental side of things is vastly more important though because being able to use your tools in a proper fashion is the key to getting the most out of them and putting yourself in the best position to win while putting your opponent at a disadvantage.

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        • Doctor_Tenma
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          #24
          Those are the two things Khan continues to cite, when explaining why he'll handle his next opponent or give Mayweather trouble, sad sad sad.

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          • ethangarretty
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            #25
            A fighter has to have a collection of all the traites such as speed, power, agility and the mental aspect to be the very best.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #26
              You can tell who the real students are simply from watching them shadowbox. Not to keep shitting on him but I gotta mention him, Khan is all over the place, wild, while Andre Ward is making sure he's in position, chin is tucked in and his defense is right when throwing, that all goes into your muscle memory, so shadowboxing is vital.



              Ward learned from the master too, look at Hopkins......


              Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 08-12-2013, 02:57 AM.

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              • hugh grant
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                #27
                Originally posted by Verstyle
                It seems people focus to much on these things and think these are the determining factors in fights.Boxing is not that simple,there are so many intangibles especially when you get to the elite level where EVERYONE CAN FIGHT. In my opinion the mental aspect is the most important thing,how mentally tough you are,how well you can think even when tired or hurt. The mental aspect is what separates world champions from contenders,and World champions from the elite p4p fighters.
                But speed and power is important. The mental aspect of course you have to try and get right, but just with mental aspect you wont go far.

                Dave boy green remembers most about SRL is his hitting power and speed.

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                • dc3383
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                  #28
                  I agree lord knows how much U hated Holyfield but you can't find a more mentally tough fighter than him.

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                  • Verstyle
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Verstyle
                    It seems people focus to much on these things and think these are the determining factors in fights.Boxing is not that simple,there are so many intangibles especially when you get to the elite level where EVERYONE CAN FIGHT. In my opinion the mental aspect is the most important thing,how mentally tough you are,how well you can think even when tired or hurt. The mental aspect is what separates world champions from contenders,and World champions from the elite p4p fighters.
                    And this is still true til this day. I took a 8 or 9 year break. Boxing is more than just punching someone. Those that do it know what I mean, the world doesn't stop because you're training or have a fight coming up.

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                    • hhh1200
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                      #30
                      Ortiz Jr Power and Size - WBA petition for mandatory eliminator
                      Ennis Speed and Size- IBF mandatory
                      Stanley - None of the above accept WBA mandatory

                      Which mandatory do the matchmakers at PBC prefer for Spence?

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