Heavyweight may be THE Division in 2014

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  • 4Corners
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    #11
    Originally posted by taansend
    In the 80's the heavyweight scene was full of average fighters who produced either really terrible or really good fights.

    Watching two average heavies in a tear up is better than watching a very big good heavyweight outjab & smaller average one.

    Hopefully the next 5 years or so will produce some big fights & bigger upsets.
    I'd pick a ton of those 80's heavyweights who were average to beat the average guys of today.

    I mean we've been in an era of heavyweights where out of shape bums are top contenders supposedly.

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    • soul_survivor
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      #12
      Originally posted by 4Corners
      I'd pick a ton of those 80's heavyweights who were average to beat the average guys of today.

      I mean we've been in an era of heavyweights where out of shape bums are top contenders supposedly.
      I think that's changing, guys like Arreola and Solis are on the way out.

      A lot of the contenders these days are in shape and obviously taking things seriously.

      As some of the posters said, some of these guys are average, can't argue with that but against one another they can make great fights, scraps that will get people interested in the division again and not just wait around trying to get a Klitschko clash.

      Vitali is on his way out, maybe another couple fights...then things will get interesting.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Earl Hickey
        Still think young Hughie has the best chance of the lot, although he's still just a baby so expecting him to be on top within 4 years might be a bit much
        Hugh is far too green, he has potential but it's very, very far away, I reckon he'd need to have another 6-8 years under his belt before he gets anywhere near the top.

        Originally posted by Earl Hickey
        Can't belive people are starting to hype this wilder guy
        I'm not hyping Wilder, I think he needs a lot of work, needs to fight better opponents and needs to get more rounds BUT he has legitimate, elite level power. Along with the Klits and Haye, he is the hardest hitting heavyweight on the planet but I think Jennings is the best American heavy out there.

        Jennings v Mitchell anyone? To clear up the American scene and then a step into Europe, Helenius or Pulev or someone such as that. Is Chagaev still fighting?

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        • Jack Napier
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          #14
          HW isn't gonna be "the" division for a while
          modern HW's are just too damn big for that
          there's skilled guys at HW and most of them can hit
          but they're just too slow to keep a pace fans will always like
          there's plenty of fun matches to be made in the division
          so long as Wlad's healthy, nothing is gonna change though

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          • Weebler I
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            #15
            The HW division is always the division by default, it's where the big boys play.

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            • Cutthroat
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              #16
              They're all really bad fighting in a piss poor division tbh.

              Fury has been dropped and rocked against a feather fisted cruiser which is also a poor division, Chisora has been KTFO by Haye with ease, Helenius has been outboxed by Chisora and won by robbery, Povetkin is a p*ssy and isn't very good, Banks has a glass chin same as Mitchell, Jennings has a glass chin too and is a KO waiting to happen, Wilder is extremely dangerous with his 1 punch KO power but is totally amateurish with everything else he does, Haye struggles mightily with taller fighters almost losing to Valuev and throwing wild punches against Wlad.

              The only guy that looks semi decent is Pulev who beat that slow and robotic punching bag Ustinov.


              New names same scrubs.

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              • Weebler I
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                #17
                Originally posted by Cutthroat
                Fury has been dropped and rocked against a feather fisted cruiser which is also a poor division, Chisora has been KTFO by Haye with ease, Helenius has been outboxed by Chisora and won by robbery, Povetkin is a p*ssy and isn't very good, Banks has a glass chin same as Mitchell, Jennings has a glass chin too and is a KO waiting to happen, Wilder is extremely dangerous with his 1 punch KO power but is totally amateurish with everything else he does, Haye struggles mightily with taller fighters almost losing to Valuev and throwing wild punches against Wlad.
                You can say this kind of stuff about any division.

                Floyd has ducked prime opponents and got rocked by an over the hill Mosley and is now fighting a green Alvarez who struggled with Matthew Hatton. Pacquiao is past prime and was put to sleep by Marquez who is also old and is working with a convicted steroid cheat. Guerero is a blown up lightweight who doesn't belong at 147 and Berto is a hypejob. Karass is limited and Malignaggi has lost his legs. Brook is afraid to step up and Maidana isn't as effective at the weight. Broner is a cherrypicker and Bradley lost to bum Provodnikov while Devon Alexander bores everyone to tears and gets gifts wrapped for him at the end of it.


                One truth remains however, you can put any middle of the road heavyweight in with someone from the little leagues and man on manlet, the little guys get knocked out cold. The lower divisions were created to give small people a chance, you can move any one of those guys up a couple of divisions and they'll get beat but HW is the real deal, the top shelf, the division by default.
                Last edited by Weebler I; 08-10-2013, 05:29 PM.

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                • Hougigo
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  Most those fighters are average or terrible.
                  Well that's the HW division

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                  • A-Wolf
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                    #19
                    Uh. No.

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                    • BostonGuy
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by soul_survivor
                      Hugh is far too green, he has potential but it's very, very far away, I reckon he'd need to have another 6-8 years under his belt before he gets anywhere near the top.


                      I'm not hyping Wilder, I think he needs a lot of work, needs to fight better opponents and needs to get more rounds BUT he has legitimate, elite level power. Along with the Klits and Haye, he is the hardest hitting heavyweight on the planet but I think Jennings is the best American heavy out there.

                      Jennings v Mitchell anyone? To clear up the American scene and then a step into Europe, Helenius or Pulev or someone such as that. Is Chagaev still fighting?
                      Really? That's a ridiculously long time to develop especially since he has a good amateur pedigree. He's no Denis Boystov! Also, if you hadn't noticed, Hughie seems to be on the fast track to the upper ranks. He's been fighting very frequently (8-0) and I expect him to be fighting decent opponents by mid-to-late 2014. He's stated such and so has his team.

                      Also, why is Wladimir Klitschko not on the poll? If you're only talking about the new or semi new talent to the scene then you shouldn't have included Povektin.

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