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  • #51
    Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
    They did the same thing with Mosley , Shane is wanting a fight and Roach wants 143 and Shane says" but you gave Cotto 145 " and Roach goes but your not Cotto , moving forward Shane starts begging for a fight even offering 142 , Roach says your too good , moving on Floyd beats Mosley and Shanes looks like sht against Mora now Roach says the weight don't matter 147 is fine , but we want you OST tested , Shane says no problems so long as Manny is tested also , and testing demands was never heard of again from Roach .

    Mannys WW rise is such a snow job , Manny took the age old hype a 2 fisted fighter to levels never seen before , all through manipulating the matchmaking , great job by the brains behind Mannys team , Roach was dead right when Manny walked through his door when Freddie said , lets make some money .
    This whole Manny run is such a circus show. It's sad Manny's fan base doesn't realize they made themselves part of the show by their idiotic stances to defend this clown.

    Inregards to testing, I wouldn't be surprised if Rios ends up being the only one really being tested since Manny will be training over seas Which will buy Manny time for those so called surprise visits. This whole thing is shady as Manny's fear of needles and marriage to Jinkee.
    Last edited by littlemac; 08-10-2013, 09:24 PM.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by Prime 407 View Post
      You do realize that Manny agreed to the testing on the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round of negotiations right??

      Why is this constantly brought up, remember Manny agreed, then Floyd changed the goal posts about revenue split, you Floyd fans seem to have selective memory.
      Its always brought up because it was the very reason the fight never happened when it was 50/50 and both fighters peaking , the only real negotiation and Manny refused the fight on the back of PED testing that he now demands of B grade losers .

      Don't come with but he only wanted cut of dates because that came after saying Yes initially then that changed to NO then it changed to cut of dates >

      Cut of dates is as good as saying NO TESTING , how the fck you have random testing and a pre known cut of dates , fck me you Manny fans are gullible .

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Prime 407 View Post
        You do realize that Manny agreed to the testing on the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round of negotiations right??

        Why is this constantly brought up, remember Manny agreed, then Floyd changed the goal posts about revenue split, you Floyd fans seem to have selective memory.
        What 2nd third and 4th negotiation?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Prime 407 View Post
          You do realize that Manny agreed to the testing on the 2nd, 3rd and 4th round of negotiations right??

          Why is this constantly brought up, remember Manny agreed, then Floyd changed the goal posts about revenue split, you Floyd fans seem to have selective memory.
          You do realize Manny team has said "anytime, anywhere" when they heard about Floyd's testing request. They even went as far as to say that they had agreed to and that Floyd ran away. Well when everything was agreed upon all of a sudden at the last minute Manny's "anytime,anywhere" turned into fear of needles to we need curt offs. Floyd then finally budges to 14 days to guarantee Pac he wouldn't be tested on the day of the figh which was Manny's last excuse before trying to bluff Floyd with a last desprett demand of 10mil penalty.

          Manny was actually the one setting up last minute road blocks with requesting last minute curt offs and penalty clauses. Testing wa the very first thing on the contract so you can say it was a last minute request. Even fat Dan explained that testing was the first thing on the contract. Manny's curt offs and penalty clauses were last minute things.

          Manny to this day still can't explain why 14 day was not enough since Manny said the only reason he didn't want testing was because he didn't want to be tested on the day of. When Brian Kenney asked Manny why wasn't 14 days enough Manny mumbled I just don't want to be tested on the day of (and to Brian's credit pressed Manny that 14 days wouldn't be on the day of the fight, Manny had no answer and switched topic about him fighting Clotty

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          • #55
            Originally posted by littlemac View Post
            What's even more hilarious is that team Pac wanted Marquez to go through testing alone but as soon as Marquez said as long as Pacquie test also he(Marquez) would do it. Pac's handlers immediately dropped their testing request
            You guys are like a washing machine ....wash, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately, you don't want to realize what the actual facts were.

            You need to discuss testing during negotiations BEFORE you sign the contract. After you sign, it's just talk and that is what you are discussing .... just talk!

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Reloaded View Post
              Its always brought up because it was the very reason the fight never happened when it was 50/50 and both fighters peaking , the only real negotiation and Manny refused the fight on the back of PED testing that he now demands of B grade losers .

              Don't come with but he only wanted cut of dates because that came after saying Yes initially then that changed to NO then it changed to cut of dates >

              Cut of dates is as good as saying NO TESTING
              , how the fck you have random testing and a pre known cut of dates , fck me you Manny fans are gullible .
              BOTH Floyd and Manny agreed to cut-off dates but they couldn't agree to which ones so the fight didn't happen. So I guess you felt the same about Floyd when he was saying "with cut-off dates".

              You make it sound like "Floyd testing rules" is the best way but it's far from being the way to go. It should be done all year round. Still not full proof (ask Lance Armstrong) but that is the way to go.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                You guys are like a washing machine ....wash, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately, you don't want to realize what the actual facts were.

                You need to discuss testing during negotiations BEFORE you sign the contract. After you sign, it's just talk and that is what you are discussing .... just talk!
                Your sounding like a sour graping turd hiding behind a formality. The fact that Manny is even thinking about testing and not just testing equally but just having Marquez testing alone has to one of the most cry baby, arrogent and disgraceful sportsmenship.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                  BOTH Floyd and Manny agreed to cut-off dates but they couldn't agree to which ones so the fight didn't happen. So I guess you felt the same about Floyd when he was saying "with cut-off dates".

                  You make it sound like "Floyd testing rules" is the best way but it's far from being the way to go. It should be done all year round. Still not full proof (ask Lance Armstrong) but that is the way to go.
                  What the heck you talking about. Floyd never wanted cutt off. The only reason there were talks about cutt offs is because of Manny's sudden fear of needles. Floyd was just being sepathetic to Manny menstrual cycle and having to give blood and was offering cutt off to make the fight. Floyd could had said no cutt offs period but really wanted the fight. Manny said just not on the day of so Floyd budge to 14 days and Manny walked after Manny's last penalty bluff was called.

                  14days is not on the day of the fight so why wasn't 14 days not good enough?!
                  Last edited by littlemac; 08-10-2013, 10:38 PM.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    You guys are like a washing machine ....wash, rinse, repeat. Unfortunately, you don't want to realize what the actual facts were.

                    You need to discuss testing during negotiations BEFORE you sign the contract. After you sign, it's just talk and that is what you are discussing .... just talk!
                    The facts is what is kicking your butt all over the forum , don't you get it people are on to Manny now , hindsight is 20/20 vision , now all the information is out and the timeline is as clear as day , its obvious Manny ducked that fight at the time , then after milking his hype train to the fullest or until it ran out of CWs and then guys started beating him , the struggles of all Mannys other fights were back and we just had a tough action fighter that we always had ,

                    Now he is fighting B grade losers , demanding PED tests , accusing others of PEDS with no proof and now wants to agree to a Floyd fight as the last big pay off ..

                    Manny was a fake , good fighter but a fake WW .

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by littlemac View Post
                      Your sounding like a sour graping turd hiding behind a formality. The fact that Manny is even thinking about testing and not just testing equally but just having Marquez testing alone has to one of the most cry baby, arrogent and disgraceful sportsmenship.
                      You are a joke if you actually believe what you wrote/

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