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  • ManUtd626
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    #11
    Originally posted by PBP
    This wasn't a WBC Championship fight though. I'm not trying to be an *******, but I didn't know that it was illegal. The New York state rules list these as infractions:




    Now they say "Ducking Low to upend an incoming opponent" but that wasn't the case here.

    Is there a rule against turning your back to an opponent? Are those the complete rules or are there more that weren't quoted?

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    • firstborn
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      #12
      I wonder if they take height differences into account?

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      • {Pito}
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        #13
        TS just hating. Cleverly disguised as actually caring for the rules.

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        • -PBP-
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          #14
          Originally posted by ManUtd626
          Is there a rule against turning your back to an opponent? Are those the complete rules or are there more that weren't quoted?
          No I quoted the whole section. Here's the complete document for NY:



          And here is the complete document for Las Vegas. I quote them because a lot of other states follow their rules:

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            #15
            Originally posted by PBP
            No I quoted the whole section. Here's the complete document for NY:



            And here is the complete document for Las Vegas. I quote them because a lot of other states follow their rules:

            http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-467.html

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            • ManUtd626
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              #16
              After reading the Nevada rules, two interesting things that I noticed. It is a foul to hit an opponent who gets his body or head through the ropes, but it says nothing about it being a foul of intentio ally putting your head throughthe ropes to avoid your opponent. Also, it says about it being illegal to turn your back or head away from your opponent. Finally, I also saw nothing saying that it is a foul to constantly spit out you mouthguard.


              According to the rules a legal scoring blow in boxing can only be achieved with the padded knuckle part of the glove which means that slapping shots are not scoring blows.

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                #17
                Originally posted by PBP
                No I quoted the whole section. Here's the complete document for NY:



                And here is the complete document for Las Vegas. I quote them because a lot of other states follow their rules:

                http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nac/NAC-467.html
                You're probably right. I originally saw the rules in the boxrec website. I thought it was universal. I guess it varies from commission to commission and from sanctioning body to sanctioning body. I'm surprised it's not there. I'm also surprised there's no rule about turning your back against the opponent, which is sort of in the same vein.
                Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 08-09-2013, 10:12 PM.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ManUtd626
                  After reading the Nevada rules, two interesting things that I noticed. It is a foul to hit an opponent who gets his body or head through the ropes, but it says nothing about it being a foul of intentio ally putting your head throughthe ropes to avoid your opponent. Also, it says about it being illegal to turn your back or head away from your opponent. Finally, I also saw nothing saying that it is a foul to constantly spit out you mouthguard.


                  According to the rules a legal scoring blow in boxing can only be achieved with the padded knuckle part of the glove which means that slapping shots are not scoring blows.
                  It's funny too because the mouthpiece rule is in the MMA rules in that same document.

                  But the unified rules of boxing give the refs some discretion:

                  5. If the referee feels that a boxer has conducted himself in an unsportsman-like manner, he may stop the bout and disqualify the boxer.




                  So I'm guessing turning your back or spitting out your mouthpiece can be "unsportsmanlike". Because there is no rule for biting either.

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                  • ManUtd626
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PBP
                    It's funny too because the mouthpiece rule is in the MMA rules in that same document.

                    But the unified rules of boxing give the refs some discretion:

                    5. If the referee feels that a boxer has conducted himself in an unsportsman-like manner, he may stop the bout and disqualify the boxer.




                    So I'm guessing turning your back or spitting out your mouthpiece can be "unsportsmanlike". Because there is no rule for biting either.
                    It is pretty weird that they would give so much discretion to the ref with such a broad term (unsportsman like comduct). For example, Roy Jones clowning an opponent is unsportsmanlike conduct but I don't think it should be punished. Also, FMJr in the Ortiz fight was not very sportman like but I don't think he should have been dq'd. They should define what exactly is meant by unsportsman like since this can vary widely between fans and more importantly refs.

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                      #20
                      i remember during floyd/hatton the British commentary *****ing about that

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