The Lucas Matthysse versus Vivian Harris fight is one of the most

[Spray_resistant]

Matthysse has no jab, and that's not a negative. He has no jab. Second, however you want to view the Judah and Devon losses, Matthysse lost. Power is judgemental. Matthysse has power, but he usually breaks you down with more than one punch. Whether you think Danny has power or not, he can punch. He probably hits harder than anyone Matthysse has faced to date. Matthysse's chin to me is still up for questions.

Nah that Zab left uppercut carries some heat, he took it flush like it was nothing. I would say he has a very durable chin.

[Frank Ducketts]

Nah that Zab left uppercut carries some heat, he took it flush like it was nothing. I would say he has a very durable chin.

Durable, lmao. I have not seen him takes shots on the regular for me to say he has a durable chin. Zab connected, but Matthysse smartly rolled with the punch which took some of the power from the punch.

[Spray_resistant]

Durable, lmao. I have not seen him takes shots on the regular for me to say he has a durable chin. Zab connected, but Matthysse smartly rolled with the punch which took some of the power from the punch.

and yet you talk all of the time about how easy to hit he is?

[FromBA]

Worst stoppage ever: Antonio Cervantes (Kid Pambelé) vs. Carlos María Giménez, Jr WW world championship, in Maracaibo, 25th June 1977. Giménez was beating Pambelé up but had a small cut and the ref stopped the fight between rounds. After the stoppage, the Argentinian promoter Tito Lectoure (who owned the Luna Park of Buenos Aires) fights the ref !! It's in black and white, guys, just for hardcore fans. I tried to embed the video starting shortly before the stoppage but it doesn't work. Look at the 15 minutes starting point.

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[Frank Ducketts]

and yet you talk all of the time about how easy to hit he is?

Now I don't doubt what you're saying, but just show me that post to remind myself of what I've been saying.

[Frank Ducketts]

Worst stoppage ever: Antonio Cervantes (Kid Pambelé) vs. Carlos María Giménez, Jr WW world championship, in Maracaibo, 25th June 1977. Giménez was beating Pambelé up but had a small cut and the ref stopped the fight between rounds. After the stoppage, the Argentinian promoter Tito Lectoure (who owned the Luna Park of Buenos Aires) fights the ref !! It's in black and white, guys, just for hardcore fans. I tried to embed the video starting shortly before the stoppage but it doesn't work. Look at the 15 minutes starting point.

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Terrible stoppage, wow!

[Spray_resistant]

Now I don't doubt what you're saying, but just show me that post to remind myself of what I've been saying.

No, that would take too much time playing thread detective just answer this is Matty defensively good in your estimation?

[deanrw]

Geez everyone is skating around the issue, I will come out and say it.

That fight was stopped the first sign of Harris getting hurt, not to protect Harris, but to protect Matthysse and his eye issue.

This stuff happens all the time when someone is brought in as an opponent and the showcase fighter suffers an injury. We see it all the time. This sport is not much about honesty. It is about oiling the gears.

Matthysse probably would have won anyway as Harris was gassing, but the ref still stole the opportunity from Harris to continue to work on that eye, which is cheap.

[Frank Ducketts]

No, that would take too much time playing thread detective just answer this is Matty defensively good in your estimation?

Of course, but I don't say that when his bandwagon fans are around.

[Frank Ducketts]

Geez everyone is skating around the issue, I will come out and say it.

That fight was stopped the first sign of Harris getting hurt, not to protect Harris, but to protect Matthysse and his eye issue.

This stuff happens all the time when someone is brought in as an opponent and the showcase fighter suffers an injury. We see it all the time. This sport is not much about honesty. It is about oiling the gears.

Matthysse probably would have won anyway as Harris was gassing, but the ref still stole the opportunity from Harris to continue to work on that eye, which is cheap.

Dean, as usual your wisdom is welcome. Second you know I'm having fun lol. D, they don't know me yet. I have to keep keepin on. Objectivity always comes late but always on time!