JMM >>> Jc Chavez ??

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  • -Huey-
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    #11
    If he KOs Bradley and fights like 10 bums then beats another decent guy he will surpass Chavez. Remember Chavez fought like 80 cab drivers...

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    • BafanaBafana
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      #12
      Originally posted by FilMor
      Jmm got dropped by juan diaz, chavez would take his soul.
      I actually thought Barrera beat him; prime vs prime, Chavez would have probably stopped him.

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        #13
        Originally posted by BafanaBafana
        I actually thought Barrera beat him; prime vs prime, Chavez would have probably stopped him.
        I think chavez would beat him,, but not stop him,,,

        jmm is like a horror movie monster that you just cant kill.....

        i dont see anyone stopping jmm

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          #14
          There's no scenario where both would face each other in their primes. Marquez was already past his psychical prime when he reached 130. He was already 34 years old, and no Barrera didn't beat him that's ******ed


          Originally posted by FilMor
          Jmm got dropped by juan diaz, chavez would take his soul.
          No he didn't...

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          • BafanaBafana
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            #15
            Originally posted by MANIAC310
            There's no scenario where both would face each other in their primes. Marquez was already past his psychical prime when he reached 130. He was already 34 years old, and no Barrera didn't beat him that's ******ed




            No he didn't...
            I thought Barrera beat him, I believe at one point in the fight Barrera hurt and dropped Marquez but the ref got in the way and deducted a point from Barrera for no apparent reason. My impression was that Barrera got robbed in that fight but I honestly haven't watched the fight in long time.

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              #16
              Originally posted by FilMor
              Jmm got dropped by juan diaz, chavez would take his soul.
              Lmfao!!! You should have watched the fight before commenting jack ass and then you would know that Diaz didn't drop him......

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                #17
                Originally posted by BafanaBafana
                I thought Barrera beat him, I believe at one point in the fight Barrera hurt and dropped Marquez but the ref got in the way and deducted a point from Barrera for no apparent reason. My impression was that Barrera got robbed in that fight but I honestly haven't watched the fight in long time.
                You're remembering it wrong.

                Marquez was beating Barrera that round pretty bad it was a 10-8 round in favor of Marquez at that point but Barrera countered him and Marquez's glove touched the Canvas. Before Marquez could get up Barrera hit him again while he was on the floor. It wasnt a scenario where the adrenaline is rushing and he got carried away. No he saw Marquez was down, he went up to him and then swung and hit him.

                He coud've been DQ'd on the spot (other fighters have been DQ'd for less) but the Ref ruled the knock down a slip (mistakenly) and he deducted a point from Barrera for the illegal punch. Which swung the round in Marquez's favor.

                Even with that 2 point swing Marquez still won the fight comfortably. It wasnt close enough for the point swing to make a difference but because of the point swing and Barrera crying. People remember the fight closer than it actually was

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                • Spray_resistant
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                  #18
                  Tough to say JC has some great wins but yeah he did fight alot of dishwashers and lawn care specialists between bigger fights.

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                  • SterlingStained
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                    #19
                    Sr. doesnt have a single win better than Marquez Pacquiao ko win. Marquez also has more division titles than senior.

                    To say its not even close is a falsehood.

                    btw,

                    Salvador Sanchez >>>>> Sr.

                    People just love to overprice and put on ridiculous untouchable pedestal a famous name.

                    With memo's "milkshakes", i would take JMM over Sr. at any weight.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MANIAC310
                      You're remembering it wrong.

                      Marquez was beating Barrera that round pretty bad it was a 10-8 round in favor of Marquez at that point but Barrera countered him and Marquez's glove touched the Canvas. Before Marquez could get up Barrera hit him again while he was on the floor. It wasnt a scenario where the adrenaline is rushing and he got carried away. No he saw Marquez was down, he went up to him and then swung and hit him.

                      He coud've been DQ'd on the spot (other fighters have been DQ'd for less) but the Ref ruled the knock down a slip (mistakenly) and he deducted a point from Barrera for the illegal punch. Which swung the round in Marquez's favor.

                      Even with that 2 point swing Marquez still won the fight comfortably. It wasnt close enough for the point swing to make a difference but because of the point swing and Barrera crying. People remember the fight closer than it actually was
                      I think they have a repley at 30:00, Marquez seemed badly hurt from it and your right that Barrera could have been DQ'ed (ref's call) for hitting Marquez after he was down, but it was still a knockdown and the ref should have given an eight count. Lederman, though I often disagree with him, gave it to Barrera who also edged JMM in the compubox numbers. I definitely need to rewatch this fight again though.

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