Will you give Haye credit if he beats Fury?

[LacedUp]

If Fury's chin was that bad like everyone is saying he would have been knocked out already, he's been hit with massive shots and has never looked close to being stopped.
Face the facts Tyson Fury has got a half decent chin OTHERWISE he wouldn't be getting back up off the canvas!!
He also has a tremendous amount of heart.

People seem to forget the old saying of in a heavyweight fight it only takes one punch, someone weighing over 200lbs and you're trying to say he's going to have absolutely no power If he lands?
Don't be absolutely ridiculous, what a ****** thing to say.

The problem with Fury getting dropped is his bad foot-work and clumsy defense.

I agree with large parts of this post. Anyone can go down from a shot if they hit the right place. Any man 200+ can punch, simple as that.

Ask Wlad for example. He went down against some light hitters as well.

[BattlingNelson]

Old, washed up, featherfisted, cruiserweight Cunningham:

[LacedUp]

Sure, if it was in impressive/clinical fashion.

So the standards are different for a contender and a champion? In the champions favour?

If Wlad beat Fury, I bet people would be on here saying Wlad is the greatest and that's another 0 taken and bla bla.

But if Haye beats him, the same people would say Fury was a hype job.

Same thing happened with Chisora. People gave the guy a lot of respect after losing to Vitali in OK fashion (if that's possible) but when Haye KOs him, he's suddenly become a journeyman.

It's just a tat ironic.

[LacedUp]

Old, washed up, featherfisted, cruiserweight Cunningham:

Cunningham had arguably just come off a win against a man many ranked in the top 5.

He was not washed up.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

You might have a point about Mormeck. I was only thinking HW and Chisora must be ranked waaaay below Valuev and under Ruiz as well.

Chisora is a better fighter though. He'd likely beat Valuev more convincingly than Haye which isn't saying much since Holyfield probably did that too.

[Earl-Hickey]

Old, washed up, featherfisted, cruiserweight Cunningham:

Look at the shot though

look at the ****ing leverage he got on that, it was a massive shot from a 205lb man

I don't think it means fury has a glass chin, I think it means he got hit with a shot he had no business getting hit with.

[LacedUp]

Chisora is a better fighter though. He'd likely beat Valuev more convincingly than Haye which isn't saying much since Holyfield probably did that too.

We can't take into account what would 'likely' happen. Then we could start to compare who fought against Fury most convincingly as well. Or say Haye would likely have beaten Helenius and Scott better than Chisora did.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Look at the shot though

look at the ****ing leverage he got on that, it was a massive shot from a 205lb man

I don't think it means fury has a glass chin, I think it means he got hit with a shot he had no business getting hit with.

Cunningham isn't "feather-fisted". He's a sneaky, sharp puncher. I remember he had Adamek hurt a few times in their first fight. It was a near perfect shot he caught Fury with.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

We can't take into account what would 'likely' happen. Then we could start to compare who fought against Fury most convincingly as well. Or say Haye would likely have beaten Helenius and Scott better than Chisora did.

What? Im saying Chisora was a better win for Haye than Valuev.

[BattlingNelson]

Cunningham had arguably just come off a win against a man many ranked in the top 5.

He was not washed up.

Cunningham, closing in on 40, was no longer able to compete with the best cruisers, so he moved up to HW to collect the last few pennies from a career that is all but over. Before facing Fury, USS had a record at HW at 1-1 where his win came against old flop Jason Gavern and the loss was to Adamek who is just about done himself.

Yep. Cunningham is finished all right.