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  • #31
    Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn View Post
    He says that he couldn't do it because he doesn't take PED's.
    Floyd is saying that what Manny did was awesome ....... when Floyd was asked in court to show the proof about PEDs abuse by Manny he said "Sorry Manny, I have no proof, please forgive me ......bla bla bla"

    So using Floyd's own words, Floyd couldn't do but Manny did something that no other fighter could have done including Floyd himself.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Floyd is saying that what Manny did was awesome ....... when Floyd was asked in court to show the proof about PEDs abuse by Manny he said "Sorry Manny, I have no proof, please forgive me ......bla bla bla"

      So using Floyd's own words, Floyd couldn't do but Manny did something that no other fighter could have done including Floyd himself.
      I don't think the transcript reflects what you posted.

      Floyd is saying on the video that Manny's awesomeness is like A Rod's.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn View Post
        I don't think the transcript reflects what you posted.

        Floyd is saying on the video that Manny's awesomeness is like A Rod's.
        Amazing...Floyd failed 3 tests himself.

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        • #34
          Tim bradley

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          • #35
            Originally posted by junior gong View Post
            Amazing...Floyd failed 3 tests himself.
            I've heard the same rumors but never saw any substantiated proof.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Arakawa Dunn View Post
              I've heard the same rumors but never saw any substantiated proof.
              Yeah....a lot of that going around the last few years....doesnt mean it didnt happen though and with the culture of juicing in floyd's gym, it doesnt look good.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                LOL Margarito was coming off an asswhooping by the hands of Mosley, a one year suspension and an unimpressive fight against a B level guy in Mexico. GTFOH.


                He came in 2 lbs over the catch weight against Marquez, I'm sure those 2 lbs explain the shutout win. Marquez was also coming up from lightweight when he fought Pacquiao for the 3rd time (and unofficially beat him).

                Floyd fought past prime Cotto at 154, Pacquiao refused to fight that same past prime Cotto above 150.

                Guerrero was coming off a win and was the best WW not named Pacquiao or Marquez.

                He didn't give Marquez or Mosley the worst beating of their lives.
                He certainly gave Mosley the most humiliating night of his career. He turned him into a runner for the night, like he did vs warrior Barrera who'd just given JMM a rude awakening. Shane didn't go running vs Canelo next, but he never got dropped so maybe that's why.

                For Cotto, do you understand about the principle involved in saying, 8 divisions is too much? I like principle, better than the lack of it when bragging about being a champ in your 5th division, and asking for a CW to unify. Do you think Cotto is better at 154 than at 150? You like principles?

                How do you think Guerrero does vs that same Marg that Pac fought? Why are you so convinced he was #3, other than the bogus Ring rankings? He doesn't have a clear cut top 10 win at welter.

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                • #38
                  niether has floyd since 2010, vs mosley

                  or does beating berto make you a top welterweight?

                  because tim bradley is better than both guerrero and ortiz
                  Last edited by SplitSecond; 07-31-2013, 12:06 PM.

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                  • #39
                    well joshua clottey was a #5 top ww and was the IBF ww champ (vacated title before facing cotto)...plus he gave cotto a good fight..

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by TheHolyCross View Post
                      niether has floyd since 2010, vs mosley

                      or does beating berto make you a top welterweight?

                      because tim bradley is better than both guerrero and ortiz
                      at the time they fought berto yes it did.

                      tim bradley is 2-0 at ww, beating manny and provodnikov, who fought all his fights at JWW previously. Both fights you think tim lost.

                      Berto is 28-3 at ww including wins over quintana, collazo, a fight which he may have lost.

                      I agree tim is a much better fighter than Berto. But you yourself think tim hasn't won a ww fight. So this post is a little confusing.
                      Last edited by The Big Dunn; 07-31-2013, 12:23 PM.

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