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  • #31
    Originally posted by yoz View Post
    Do you think Haye could KO Vitali? I could see a stoppage, but only if Vitali quits.
    Completely disagree. The only way Haye wins is by (t)ko. Haye doesn't throw nearly enough, and VK is the highest volume top HW puncher since compubox started logging stats. Vitali will be more aggressive than his brother, more open to being hit, but more likely to hit and land and wear Haye down. VK has arguably the best chin of all the top 30 HW's in history, but is now very old and maybe not be what he once was. Even then, it's not like he is invulnerable, no one is. Sanders hurt him, and Haye does have sensational power, he could knock anyone out if he gets lucky. All told VK should grind him down and ko or tko him in later rounds (maybe 60% likelihood), a lesser likelihood is a decision for VK(maybe 15-20%), and then a Haye tko or ko (15-20%). Anything else 5%. Frankly, its quite similar to the Stiverne fight, if it happens. I'd probably keep the odds about the same for that, more chance of a decision victory for VK and less chance of VK koing Stiverne, though.

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    • #32
      He won't get Wlad and I can't see a quick deal reachable with Vitali.

      So he'll have to be more active.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by andrewa1 View Post
        Completely disagree. The only way Haye wins is by (t)ko. Haye doesn't throw nearly enough, and VK is the highest volume top HW puncher since compubox started logging stats. Vitali will be more aggressive than his brother, more open to being hit, but more likely to hit and land and wear Haye down. VK has arguably the best chin of all the top 30 HW's in history, but is now very old and maybe not be what he once was. Even then, it's not like he is invulnerable, no one is. Sanders hurt him, and Haye does have sensational power, he could knock anyone out if he gets lucky. All told VK should grind him down and ko or tko him in later rounds (maybe 60% likelihood), a lesser likelihood is a decision for VK(maybe 15-20%), and then a Haye tko or ko (15-20%). Anything else 5%. Frankly, its quite similar to the Stiverne fight, if it happens. I'd probably keep the odds about the same for that, more chance of a decision victory for VK and less chance of VK koing Stiverne, though.
        So, you pretty much agreed with the quoted text.

        I know what you mean, though. It really depends on what version shows up. If Haye goes on the run and pot shots, he could sneak a controversial decision win. If he comes to trade, he'll likely get stopped.

        I don't see him scoring a KO over Vitali. Not a chance.

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        • #34
          We heard this song and dance two years ago.


          "I want a shot at the title! I want Klitschko!"

          "Uh oh. I can't hurt Klitschko and can't get inside his reach."

          "I'm just going to make sure I survive for 12 rounds and take absolutely no risks to try and win the fight."

          "It was my toe. Honest. If it weren't for my toe, I'd have won the fight".

          "Now if I beat an up-and-coming, untested fighter, I'm entitled to another shot at a Klitschko."

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          • #35
            I dont care who haye fights-just make sure its better than the wlad debacle. Niether guy, but especially Haye, made themselves look good.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by yoz View Post
              So, you pretty much agreed with the quoted text.

              I know what you mean, though. It really depends on what version shows up. If Haye goes on the run and pot shots, he could sneak a controversial decision win. If he comes to trade, he'll likely get stopped.

              I don't see him scoring a KO over Vitali. Not a chance.
              I guess I was responding more to the some of the other posts you, Laced up and someone else put saying Haye would be more likely to decision VK, which I just don't see happening based on their fight styles. I don't like Haye and I do like Vitali, but I respect Haye's power enough to think there's a chance he could ko or tko VK if he gets lucky or if Vitali suddenly gets old(and it would be genuine, no way would Vitali quit in a fight at the end of his career, especially against Haye).

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              • #37
                Same people that said Haye needs to beat a young top 10 fighter to get a Klitschko fight, are now making more excuses for him not to get a Klitschko fight if he does.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Keitha313 View Post
                  32 years old and fights a high stamina sapping style, It is getting old for his style then adding to the equation he doesn't fight consistently in the year and that he also dropped several lbs of lean muscle mass when he was on that reality show.
                  You can only abuse your body so much before it starts taking a telling effect and trying to be active isn't fighting once a year, he's had numerous chances to fight before he set that Manuel Charr fight up but he was simply not interested, its his own wrong doing.

                  His ring rust will show and If he is knocked out against Fury which is very likely to happen, well you can use all those excuses.
                  I don't know if you have ever heard about David Haye's diet. It's quite frightening what the guy has to take to prepare himself for a Hw fight: 24 white eggs, creatine and some other chemical rubbish.

                  It's quite appealing when you compare his bulked body to the Klitschko brothers' trained bodies.

                  My point here is that David Haye is doing some serious damage to his body to compete in the heavyweight division.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by thuggery View Post
                    Ugh..

                    He wants to get schooled and put on his knees again? Anyway Fury will make easy work of this guy.
                    I'm pretty sure I PMed you a while ago and offered you odds on Haye Fury but I've yet to receive a reply. Would you like to bet or not? I'll give you 4:1 in your favour, my 200 bil to your 50 bil. Yes?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by yoz View Post
                      So, you pretty much agreed with the quoted text.

                      I know what you mean, though. It really depends on what version shows up. If Haye goes on the run and pot shots, he could sneak a controversial decision win. If he comes to trade, he'll likely get stopped.

                      I don't see him scoring a KO over Vitali. Not a chance.
                      Yoz my pal, there's nothing controversial with winning a decision through pot shotting. Floyd is proof that you can win decisively on that tactic.

                      It's about hitting and not getting hit.

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