Comments Thread For: Thurman: Me and Adrien Broner is a Tremendous Fight!

[BUNGALOWS]

How does Broner get beat by Thurman, care to elaborate?

Broner has no foot movement. Very susceptible to body shots. Doesn't have elite power at 147. Strength of opponents doesn't lend me to believe that he's really anything special. Thurman's been tested, twice, against credible, tough, hard nosed WWs.

Did you watch the Paulie fight? Need I go on?

[Mayweather41-0]

sounds good to me I would be very interested in a Thurman-Broner fight or a Thurman-Maidana fight

[Kagami Taiga]

Wow, I guess Floyd Pacman and JMM are not pioneers of the sport. But young guns who ain't done squat but beat on made to order fluffs. (Except for PDL who beat him in his weight class). If Broner doesn't fight a welterweight next, then what??

you would be right. theres nothing wrong with that.

[J The UnBiased]

Broner has no foot movement. Very susceptible to body shots. Doesn't have elite power at 147. Strength of opponents doesn't lend me to believe that he's really anything special. Thurman's been tested, twice, against credible, tough, hard nosed WWs.

Did you watch the Paulie fight? Need I go on?

To allude that Broner has no foot movement or that he can't dance around only proves that you don't watch many of the kids fights. Say what you want about Broner's level opposition, but Thurman hasn't took out any world beaters either. Broner's not a puncher like Thurman. But Broner's the better boxer, has faster hands, has a longer reach, has a much more broad arsenal of weapons, and he's the better defender out of the two. This is a 50/50 fight. To make it seem like Broner is just some fighter is ridiculous. If you don't like the kid, cool, but don't make it seem like he and Thurman aren't on the same level.

[slicksouthpaw16]

How does Broner get beat by Thurman, care to elaborate?

I can see Thurman setting traps for Broner and making him lead, which i would think would be an issue considering not only the size advantage for Thurman, but the fact that he counters with such authority that would make someone unwilling to force the issue especially if that's not their "main game". If Broner isn't leading, he has no chance to win but this also puts him in GRAVE danger considering these reasons. Even as a lightweight, i said that he doesn't have the ability to just use a jab and lateral movement to out box his opponent (the way Floyd did at his age). Hes seems best at (or what have worked so far) is operating out of Mayweather type shell, throwing short counters and leading with right hands or occasional hooks in spurts. This is something i don't see him getting away with against Thurman, because i feel like the Pauli fight showed that not only is his power not as effective as it is at lightweight, but lateral movers makes it hard for him to time that right hand effectively. Thurman can move when he wants to, and throw effective, well placed power shots at any part of his opponents body. With Broner's defense, he seems to be vulnerable to overhand rights and body shots, which both Rees and Malignaggi both found homes for. Thurman would be licking his chops if Broner gave him these type of openings, especially considering they found him several times repeatedly with the same punches. And because of the power differential, you can't help but to think it would have a monstrous effect. In fact, Broner is open to the exact same shot that knock Chaves down. Anyway, i think Thurman has more options to win than Broner does. Thurman can win on boxing or pressure, while Broner is limited to just finding a home for right hand leads while getting out dodge of Thurman's comeback shots, which i don't see being able to do for 12 rounds.

[BUNGALOWS]

To allude that Broner has no foot movement or that he can't dance around only proves that you don't watch many of the kids fights. Say what you want about Broner's level opposition, but Thurman hasn't took out any world beaters either. Broner's not a puncher like Thurman. But Broner's the better boxer, has faster hands, has a longer reach, has a much more broad arsenal of weapons, and he's the better defender out of the two. This is a 50/50 fight. To make it seem like Broner is just some fighter is ridiculous. If you don't like the kid, cool, but don't make it seem like he and Thurman aren't on the same level.

He has no foot movement. He stalks his midget/feather fisted prey aroundthe ring, and occasionally step back counters. Thurman's level of opposition at WW >>> Broner's. Paulie absolutely sucks now, and he lost all forms of mobility. His legs aren't the same at all, and the only reason why he looked good was because Broner truly doesn't have WW power, and Broner is too easy to prevent from punching back. You throw shots, he covers up.

OK. Broker has faster hands? And??? He needs faster feet to go along with those hands, because he's still there to be hit all night long, and against Thurman, he'd get smashed.

Broader arsenal of weapons? Against tomato cans and midgets, yes. Those same weapons that he needs to use are the same reasons why he gets his butt thoroughly handed to him by Thurman.

His defense consists of the shell, which really isn't going to be effective against a bigger guy that can pop like Thurman. Thurman will rip him to the body, then Broner's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Use that weak ass Philly shell or cover up your body and get KTFO? Which one you want?

I'm sorry, but Broner really is just some hyped up fighter that's a product of Am Haymon. He's really not that good. There's a reason why he jumped up to 147 to take on Paulie. Backfired like crazy. Dudes stock went way down.

[BUNGALOWS]

I can see Thurman setting traps for Broner and making him lead, which i would think would be an issue considering not only the size advantage for Thurman, but the fact that he counters with such authority that would make someone unwilling to force the issue especially if that's not their "main game". If Broner isn't leading, he has no chance to win but this also puts him in GRAVE danger considering these reasons. Even as a lightweight, i said that he doesn't have the ability to just use a jab and lateral movement to out box his opponent (the way Floyd did at his age). Hes seems best at (or what have worked so far) is operating out of Mayweather type shell, throwing short counters and leading with right hands or occasional hooks in spurts. This is something i don't see him getting away with against Thurman, because i feel like the Pauli fight showed that not only is his power not as effective as it is at lightweight, but lateral movers makes it hard for him to time that right hand effectively. Thurman can move when he wants to, and throw effective, well placed power shots at any part of his opponents body. With Broner's defense, he seems to be vulnerable to overhand rights and body shots, which both Rees and Malignaggi both found homes for. Thurman would be licking his chops if Broner gave him these type of openings, especially considering they found him several times repeatedly with the same punches. And because of the power differential, you can't help but to think it would have a monstrous effect. In fact, Broner is open to the exact same shot that knock Chaves down. Anyway, i think Thurman has more options to win than Broner does. Thurman can win on boxing or pressure, while Broner is limited to just finding a home for right hand leads while getting out dodge of Thurman's comeback shots, which i don't see being able to do for 12 rounds.

Very well put. Typing on my phone so I didn't want to break it down on an intellectual level. You did it for me.

[J The UnBiased]

I can see Thurman setting traps for Broner and making him lead, which i would think would be an issue considering not only the size advantage for Thurman, but the fact that he counters with such authority that would make someone unwilling to force the issue especially if that's not their "main game". If Broner isn't leading, he has no chance to win but this also puts him in GRAVE danger considering these reasons. Even as a lightweight, i said that he doesn't have the ability to just use a jab and lateral movement to out box his opponent (the way Floyd did at his age). Hes seems best at (or what have worked so far) is operating out of Mayweather type shell, throwing short counters and leading with right hands or occasional hooks in spurts. This is something i don't see him getting away with against Thurman, because i feel like the Pauli fight showed that not only is his power not as effective as it is at lightweight, but lateral movers makes it hard for him to time that right hand effectively. Thurman can move when he wants to, and throw effective, well placed power shots at any part of his opponents body. With Broner's defense, he seems to be vulnerable to overhand rights and body shots, which both Rees and Malignaggi both found homes for. Thurman would be licking his chops if Broner gave him these type of openings, especially considering they found him several times repeatedly with the same punches. And because of the power differential, you can't help but to think it would have a monstrous effect. In fact, Broner is open to the exact same shot that knock Chaves down. Anyway, i think Thurman has more options to win than Broner does. Thurman can win on boxing or pressure, while Broner is limited to just finding a home for right hand leads while getting out dodge of Thurman's comeback shots, which i don't see being able to do for 12 rounds.

I agree with a lot of what you said, but take into account what Broner brings to this fight. I think Thurman has the ability to do most of what you brought up, but I also believe that Broner could outbox Thurman if he can make into that kind of a fight. Broner sure as hell isn't gonna stand their and slug with him. That's when the adjustments by Thurman get made. If the pop behind Broner's punches are enough to keep Keith honest, he'll drag him into a boxing match. This is where the advantages of speed and reach come into major play for Adrien. Thurman has showed us that he can box a little, but Broner's the more accurate puncher, and Keith can be countered. But if Thurman has no respect for Adrien's punches, then he's going to stalk him. This too leaves Thurman open. I think this is a great fight. I lean toward Adrien, then again I know that Thurman can pull out a win.

[J The UnBiased]

He has no foot movement. He stalks his midget/feather fisted prey aroundthe ring, and occasionally step back counters. Thurman's level of opposition at WW >>> Broner's. Paulie absolutely sucks now, and he lost all forms of mobility. His legs aren't the same at all, and the only reason why he looked good was because Broner truly doesn't have WW power, and Broner is too easy to prevent from punching back. You throw shots, he covers up.

OK. Broker has faster hands? And??? He needs faster feet to go along with those hands, because he's still there to be hit all night long, and against Thurman, he'd get smashed.

Broader arsenal of weapons? Against tomato cans and midgets, yes. Those same weapons that he needs to use are the same reasons why he gets his butt thoroughly handed to him by Thurman.

His defense consists of the shell, which really isn't going to be effective against a bigger guy that can pop like Thurman. Thurman will rip him to the body, then Broner's stuck between a rock and a hard place. Use that weak ass Philly shell or cover up your body and get KTFO? Which one you want?

I'm sorry, but Broner really is just some hyped up fighter that's a product of Am Haymon. He's really not that good. There's a reason why he jumped up to 147 to take on Paulie. Backfired like crazy. Dudes stock went way down.

Everyone's making a huge deal out of his performance against Paulie. But to be honest, I just don't think Adrien respected him enough. I saw absolutely no game plan in that fight from Broner. Adrien clearly won the fight, but you could tell that he was expecting an easier night, and he didn't prepare for it. His fault. I said this a few months ago, before he even moved up to 147, that his power would not carry over into the higher weight classes, but he's got enough pop behind them and he places them very well. There are many holes in his game, but their are just as many in Keith's.

[turnedup]

This fight won't be made for at least two years.