Mayweather vs Pacquiao @ 147: Who wins?

[The Big Dunn]

A Floyd-Manny fight would be a dull affair. If Floyd was sprinting against Guerrero, what would he do against Manny? And Manny is poor at chasing. So Floyd wins a tap and run and the fans get bilked!

so floyd would box and mov and Manny can't cutoff the ring or adjust to movement so in your mind the fans get bilked. WHat is floyd supposed to do-stand in front of manny and make it easy?

Let's hope they do fight and roach teaches manny the very basic skill of cutting off the ring so he has a better chace of winning. If not, then yes another rigo donaire embarassment is possible.

[ADP02]

your 1st 2 paragraphs are all opinions.

There is only one a side in any fight. Manny is the biggest b side ever I will concede. He simply didn't agree to fight. STop blaming others for that decision.

Manny's testing for rios isn't the gold standard. But, as DIrk and others point out, Manny was in better economic position than the other b sides fo floyd so he choose not to accept ost and no fight.

in 2009 he wanted ost because he thought manny was using ped's.

In 2013 he said that because he has all the negotiating power and he is doing to manny what TR did to JMM and Bradley for them to get a manny fight. If its not right now it wasn't right then.

He didn't say that exactly but in 2011 he said that as a sarcastic remark to his haters. You saw the video so you are fully aware of the context and setting. Pretend otherwise if you wish.

Thats all you hear because that makes you feel better about manny and by extension yourself.

What Floyd wanted was something new and NOT OST.
Manny and Floyd didn't agree on the testing terms. We all know that. THey BOTH made the decision to not concede no more than they did. I repeate BOTH did. So stop saying that it was Manny because it was BOTH. Floyd's was not some gold standard that was being used in the Olympics or wherever ..... it was some add-on to what is already existing.

Like I said before, I gave Floyd the benefit of the doubt initially BUT once he continued with the roadblocks then it all clicked. It was just roadblock number one of the many more that followed.


So Floyd is going to have 2 fights in 2013. He has all the negotiating power yet he didn't demand those two other fighters to join his Floyd promotions or no fight. Like I said, you are just too gullible if you buy into everything Floyd says.

Question: Did you believe Floyd when he said "Manny you are NEXT" or when he said "I NEVER said Manny is NEXT"

[Whigged]

Good point. Floyd waffled on that one.

[The Big Dunn]

What Floyd wanted was something new and NOT OST.
Manny and Floyd didn't agree on the testing terms. We all know that. THey BOTH made the decision to not concede no more than they did. I repeate BOTH did. So stop saying that it was Manny because it was BOTH. Floyd's was not some gold standard that was being used in the Olympics or wherever ..... it was some add-on to what is already existing.

Like I said before, I gave Floyd the benefit of the doubt initially BUT once he continued with the roadblocks then it all clicked. It was just roadblock number one of the many more that followed.


So Floyd is going to have 2 fights in 2013. He has all the negotiating power yet he didn't demand those two other fighters to join his Floyd promotions or no fight. Like I said, you are just too gullible if you buy into everything Floyd says.

Question: Did you believe Floyd when he said "Manny you are NEXT" or when he said "I NEVER said Manny is NEXT"

Doesn't matter if it was new. $10 mil per lb over was new. Manny didn't agree on testing, it wasn't both. Manny didn't want to test at 1st, then he wanted to negotiate a cutoff date. thats not agreeing. thats not both.

you call them roadblocks because you just can't bring yourself to hold manny accountable for his actions. you know that refusing to fight over this test was bull****. but instead you blame floyd fo asking for os. Rios accepted Manny's request without 1st refusing and then trying to negotiating a cutoff. Manny could've done same. That he didn't is reflective of him wanting the fight.

No he didn't ask them too. But so what? ytou weren't upset when bob made JMM and Tim join TR to get a manny fight. Floyd, as a promoter, is doing the same thing. Manny didn't make ODH or Hatton join TR to get a fight, why tim and JMM?

NO, I thought he was saying manny you are next just to get attention. Then he came with the BS $40 mil no ppv offer to cover himself.

[AL_Camino]

The fans lose


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In the end we are the ones who really lost, correct, damn shame, but I still say its a 50 50 fight, pac was always floyds biggest threat and floyds
Boxing is pacs nightmare, pacs speed power and movement vs world class boxer counter puncher, fack!!!

[DeadLikeMe]

so floyd would box and mov and Manny can't cutoff the ring or adjust to movement so in your mind the fans get bilked. WHat is floyd supposed to do-stand in front of manny and make it easy?

Let's hope they do fight and roach teaches manny the very basic skill of cutting off the ring so he has a better chace of winning. If not, then yes another rigo donaire embarassment is possible.

Didn't you know? Boxing to a lot of people on here means you're supposed to run into the middle of the ring swinging wildly and just let the guy they support knock you out and hit you at will. The funny thing is Manny doesn't even go toe-to-toe, he shoots in and out and changes angles. Yet they expect everyone he fights to just stand there and let him hit them because he is their hero

[The Big Dunn]

Didn't you know? Boxing to a lot of people on here means you're supposed to run into the middle of the ring swinging wildly and just let the guy they support knock you out and hit you at will. The funny thing is Manny doesn't even go toe-to-toe, he shoots in and out and changes angles. Yet they expect everyone he fights to just stand there and let him hit them because he is their hero

I think when we evaluate fighters tis needs to be mentioned about manny. fighters like frazier, chavez sr., duran, hagler all faced opponents who could move. They all had to FIND those men in order to beat them.

You can have all the power in the world but if you don't know how to cut off the ring and cant remember "he steps left, I step left" during a prize fight then you have essentially conceded ring generalship and, to a lesser degree, defense-two elements of scoring a fight.

I would figure the rigo donaire fight made this clear to everyone.

[Pacquiao'd]

9 pages and this is all that's voted. Where are the pactuurds they love pac vs may polls

[DeadLikeMe]

9 pages and this is all that's voted. Where are the pactuurds they love pac vs may polls

Their numbers have taken a massive hit over the last year or so.

[junior gong]

Lots of flom tears in here!