Comments Thread For: Duran: In My Era, Mayweather Would've Been Ordinary

[richardt]

2 or 3 is not some, you were talking like it was some real percentage, in any fight you can find 5% that saw a totally different fight 2 or 3 falls into that and is not a serious group and is much lass than 5%. So you were hanging your hat on that? Seriously acting like that is a big deal?


I could give two shits about what you have to say you have been talking out your ass this whole time.


Deal with the fact that Floyd is on those guys level and stands a good chance to win (better than 30% chance in the worst cases). So while those guys may have been nightmares for Floyd he may have also been nightmares for them~

2 or 3 is some....go look up "some" in the dictionary. That fact is it was a close fight that could go either way and almost did that was against a past prime Oscar who many thought he lost to. How hard is that to grasp? You have already said Floyd could lose to those guys and I agree with that part so go argue with the dude who is looking back in the mirror at your house then. There is nothing wrong with Floyd being in the top PFP in the 80's as a junior welter since welter would have been too dangerous. Maybe he can beat a whirlwind Aaron Pryor, maybe not.

[richardt]

Also you repeating the same tired scenario which is a possible outcome does not make that reality no matter how much you wish~ and is not real insight.

I have probably watched more boxing this month than you have watched in your life and I haven't even been watching a lot for me~

"Real insight"....."watched more boxing"....coming from a guy who doesn't even know that Floyd's forte is not middle of the ring inside fighting!!!! Nice try and pretending to actually have seen Floyd fight more than once. Man, you really made yourself look ****** with that comment. Floyd get past Hearn's jab and right hand??? Dream on. He wouldn't even try, let alone succeed. Floyd has never fought an inside fight in the middle of the ring...Get it? Got it? GOOD! Next time at least attempt to watch a number of Floyd's fights before commenting on his style. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that.

[The Gambler1981]

2 or 3 is some....go look up "some" in the dictionary. That fact is it was a close fight that could go either way and almost did that was against a past prime Oscar who many thought he lost to. How hard is that to grasp? You have already said Floyd could lose to those guys and I agree with that part so go argue with the dude who is looking back in the mirror at your house then. There is nothing wrong with Floyd being in the top PFP in the 80's as a junior welter since welter would have been too dangerous. Maybe he can beat a whirlwind Aaron Pryor, maybe not.

Some is a serious percentage 2 or 3 is a couple and if it is only 2 or 3 just name them it shouldn't take that much effort why have we gone through this~

But no one really thinks that and it wasn't that close also whether you win by an inch or a mile winning is winning~

Why would it be shocking to say Floyd could lose to those great fighters it is certainly a possibility and they are great fighters so not like there is any shame in that. The key word in that statement is could though so while he could lose to those guys he could also win and you keep saying he CAN'T.

[The Gambler1981]

"Real insight"....."watched more boxing"....coming from a guy who doesn't even know that Floyd's forte is not middle of the ring inside fighting!!!! Nice try and pretending to actually have seen Floyd fight more than once. Man, you really made yourself look ****** with that comment. Floyd get past Hearn's jab and right hand??? Dream on. He wouldn't even try, let alone succeed. Floyd has never fought an inside fight in the middle of the ring...Get it? Got it? GOOD! Next time at least attempt to watch a number of Floyd's fights before commenting on his style. It doesn't get any more pathetic than that.

I never said forte, I said he could and does which is true. Go watch the Corrales fight or anytime he fights someone who can out range him.


BTW Floyd's forte is that he can do a lot of things well and fight from different places thus generally always fights in a place that benefits him and puts his opponents at a disadvantage. Against Hearns that is inside so I don't see what is so hard about seeing that, if he can get the job done or not is an open question.

[richardt]

Some is a serious percentage 2 or 3 is a couple and if it is only 2 or 3 just name them it shouldn't take that much effort why have we gone through this~

But no one really thinks that and it wasn't that close also whether you win by an inch or a mile winning is winning~

Why would it be shocking to say Floyd could lose to those great fighters it is certainly a possibility and they are great fighters so not like there is any shame in that. The key word in that statement is could though so while he could lose to those guys he could also win and you keep saying he CAN'T.

No, Floyd could not beat those guys. Put up a poll and have people write out the scenarios why he would win or lose and you will see clearly why it is overwheliming that Floyd does not beat those guys. I've already illustrated why he would not beat those guys and gave scenarios. Explain then how Floyd would win! How does Floyd get past Hearn's jab and right hand and then what? He is not a middle of the ring inside fighter so explain how he would win.

[richardt]

I never said forte, I said he could and does which is true. Go watch the Corrales fight or anytime he fights someone who can out range him.


BTW Floyd's forte is that he can do a lot of things well and fight from different places thus generally always fights in a place that benefits him and puts his opponents at a disadvantage. Against Hearns that is inside so I don't see what is so hard about seeing that, if he can get the job done or not is an open question.

Corrales is not as fast, not as big, not as powerful as Hearns. Dont think for one second Floyd could get past Hearns jab and fight an inside game he does NOT fight. Corrales was a 130 pound fighter, not a 147 pound coiled powerhouse like Hearns. No comparison.

[The Gambler1981]

No, Floyd could not beat those guys. Put up a poll. Have people write out the scenarios and you will see. I've already illustrated why he would not beat those guys and gave scenarios. Explain then! How does Floyd get past Hearn's jab and right hand and then what? He is not a middle of the ring inside fighter so explain how he would win.

I don't care what those people say that has no bearing on a fight~ I know my opinion is dissenting but I am perfectly fine having it.

I have illustrated how Floyd wins in my first response to you and told you how easy it was to give simple one line over simplified reasons why someone wins.

How Floyd gets past Hearns jab, simple make him reach and miss then his long arms become a liability as Floyd moves inside to his better range and inside Hearns best range. Now this is all easier said than done but Floyd is a great defensive fighter so I wouldn't consider it out of the question because if he can make Hearns miss and make him pay Hearns will likely get frustrated thus making him make more mistakes. On top of that Hearns was a physical freak but he was not a great tactician so him getting out maneuvered so his physical advantages are not as great if he is not in position to utilize them to the fullest (another one of Floyd's fortes btw).

[The Gambler1981]

Corrales is not as fast, not as big, not as powerful as Hearns. Dont think for one second Floyd could get past Hearns jab and fight an inside game he does NOT fight. Corrales was a 130 pound fighter, not a 147 pound coiled powerhouse like Hearns. No comparison.

You said he doesn't do it and I gave you an example (against a quality fighter at that) and now you move the goal posts.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

damn...you two still at it?


agree to disagree and share an e-beer..let this worn thread die to the 2nd page, fellas

[The Gambler1981]

damn...you two still at it?


agree to disagree and share an e-beer..let this worn thread die to the 2nd page, fellas

I am going out for a few so hopefully it will


You know me though sometimes I can't help myself from getting involved in dumb shit and I haven't done it in a while so getting my fill