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  • #71
    Originally posted by PurePugilist216 View Post
    How much did Haymon pay you to write that?
    Go put on your tin foil hat~ or else Al Haymon might turn his satellite on you and fry your brain~

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    • #72
      Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
      Go put on your tin foil hat~
      Its on, now tell me, what your Haymon check looks like, because no way was this fight close. Berto won 3 wrong Max. I have him 2

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      • #73
        Originally posted by PurePugilist216 View Post
        Its on, now tell me, what your Haymon check looks like, because no way was this fight close. Berto won 3 wrong Max. I have him 2
        He hands out those giant checks like you get at golf tournaments~ that is the only way to get enough zeros on them~

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        • #74
          Or maybe they are on clear plastic and extra small because no one can ever see them~

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          • #75
            Or maybe they are written on magic invisible paper so only the person that gets them can see it.

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            • #76
              Or maybe this Al Haymon is a necromancer and raised the dead to do his bidding judging fights, those old men do kind of look like corpses, then he wouldn't even have to write checks he could just pay them in the brains of his enemies~

              So better watch out talking about Haymon like that, or he is gonna get ya

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              • #77
                Originally posted by Humean View Post
                I saw Karass winning and I think that the judges that had it a draw and for Berto were wrong but....




                For a start there is actually quite a simple explanation for the bad judging of a fight such as that the judges are not of a high quality. Like anything in life some people are better at their respective jobs than others at that same job. Perhaps the judges in question here were just not that competent. Another point related to that is that there is always going to be bias involved, however unconscious, and that bias seems to consistently be a bias in favour of the 'name' fighter. It is easy to see how that works, a judge just needs to be focusing too much on the work of the 'name' fighter and not enough on the opponent. Is that really so hard for lots of boxing fans to actually understand?

                Now to the main reason for my post. You talk about mental ******ation but lets go through the reasoning, or the lack thereof, that runs to your conclusion. First of all you have no evidence for these judges being bought nor any other by Al Haymon, therefore your claim has almost zero merit. Secondly why would all these countless fighters bother to get into the ring against Al Hayman fighters if they knew that the judges were being bribed to favour the Haymon fighter? Now that would be a sign of mental ******ation.
                They bother to get in the ring because it is their livelihood. What are they supposed to do, refuse money?

                If this was an isolated case, maybe we could say it was "incompetent judging." It's not an isolated case. It's clear corruption that we have seen over and over and over and over.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
                  I was a close fight, you liked Soto Karass's work fair enough and good for you but Berto also did work and the judges could have also liked that.


                  It was certainly a close enough fight that it could have hung in the balance in round 12 and one man closed the show like he should have in a close fight~
                  It was not close. Not at all. Berto had 3 rounds, 4 if you give him too much credit. He was getting his ass kicked in the 12th. Those scorecards were atrocious.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                    It was not close. Not at all. Berto had 3 rounds, 4 if you give him too much credit. He was getting his ass kicked in the 12th. Those scorecards were atrocious.
                    I can see having Karass ahead, but I think you are giving him to much credit as many of those rounds were close enough that there is some doubt.

                    4 isn't all that far from 5 with 1 even to be honest, so I don't get what your big point is or how 2 rounds different is atrocious.

                    Scoring is subjective which is why there are always scores all over the map.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
                      It was not close. Not at all. Berto had 3 rounds, 4 if you give him too much credit. He was getting his ass kicked in the 12th. Those scorecards were atrocious.
                      You say it's reasonable to give Berto 4 rounds, but complain that it was not close at all.

                      Keep in mind Soto finished him in the 12th, so that round isn't scored. Also keep in mind that Berto won the 11th round 10-8 on most scorecards. Add in 3 more rounds for Berto (according to you), and your score at the end of 11 is ...

                      105-103 Soto.

                      even if you only gave Berto 3 rounds, your score is 106-102 for Soto. Your score is not much of a blowout as you thought right?

                      Enough with the conspiracy theories. You people still haven't answered my question that if the fix was in, why did the ref stop the fight and ruin everyone's plan?

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