Should fighters who get caught on PEDs get a * by their wins?

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  • extracurRICular
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    #11
    Originally posted by Ray*
    I alway look at them as cheetahs and am alway glad when they get KTFO, people like Bey, Pederson, Berto, etc am glad when they get KO, the problem in boxing is there isn't proper regulations and the fans are the dumbest in the sport. They are ready to make excuses for you when you fail a test, they are willing to take up any excuse (No matter how ridiculous) your excuse is, and YES race and nationality plays a big part in it.

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    • Syf
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      #12
      if they are officially caught sure.

      But notice, that's not the case. Mosley is still regarded as a Hall of Famer. RJJ is still practically worshipped by some people.

      I think guys like Margarito though definitely need a *

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      • DudeN561
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        #13
        Either they allow all participants of a sport engage in PED's or the commissions of their respective sports strike down lengthy suspensions or bans. I know that neither of those will happen because all sports now are huge money machines. Also, one win does effect another win in boxing. If you win against a top fighter, you will then have success in getting larger fights. Unless, of course you are Rigondeaux.

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          #14
          Originally posted by DudeN561
          Either they allow all participants of a sport engage in PED's or the commissions of their respective sports strike down lengthy suspensions or bans. I know that neither of those will happen because all sports now are huge money machines. Also, one win does effect another win in boxing. If you win against a top fighter, you will then have success in getting larger fights. Unless, of course you are Rigondeaux.
          This is a true statement, and one I was aware of when I wrote my post. However, what I meant was that the fights themselves are separate. Beating one guy today, while on steroids, doesn't mean you'll beat another guy tomorrow, off steroids.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Syf
            if they are officially caught sure.

            But notice, that's not the case. Mosley is still regarded as a Hall of Famer. RJJ is still practically worshipped by some people.

            I think guys like Margarito though definitely need a *
            oooooooooooh boy......you done it now......

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            • al-Xander
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              #16
              Sad part is there's been no consequences other than natural karma. Pederson and Berto both lost their last fights in humiliating fashion. Both fights didn't have extra testing despite of their previous cheating.

              Can't wait to see the biggest cheat get his karma just weeks from now.

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              • Chuckguy
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                #17
                Originally posted by JoeKidd
                I wonder if people have selective long memories. What if their hero gets caught?
                My two ATF fighters are
                1.Mosely
                2. Holyfield
                both got caught and Ill be the first to admit that I am suspect about their careers. They should have L's not NC or wins on their records for whatever fights they were caught or the time frame they were using

                I think the first offense should be a 18 month ban and if they are injured in the fight like Jr was then the ban does not start until they are cleared to by a Dr to begin training. The purse for the fight they are caught in gets taken away. 50% goes to the opponent and the other 50% to a charity of the opponents choice.
                If they are caugh a second time then they are banned for life!
                it is harsh but until something like that is done we will continue to have cheats including my two fav all time, sad but true

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                • Chuckguy
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by JoeMan
                  Sad part is there's been no consequences other than natural karma. Pederson and Berto both lost their last fights in humiliating fashion. Both fights didn't have extra testing despite of their previous cheating.

                  Can't wait to see the biggest cheat get his karma just weeks from now.
                  and who is that????

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                  • extracurRICular
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Chuckguy
                    My two ATF fighters are
                    1.Mosely
                    2. Holyfield
                    both got caught and Ill be the first to admit that I am suspect about their careers. They should have L's not NC or wins on their records for whatever fights they were caught or the time frame they were using

                    I think the first offense should be a 18 month ban and if they are injured in the fight like Jr was then the ban does not start until they are cleared to by a Dr to begin training. The purse for the fight they are caught in gets taken away. 50% goes to the opponent and the other 50% to a charity of the opponents choice.
                    If they are caugh a second time then they are banned for life!
                    it is harsh but until something like that is done we will continue to have cheats including my two fav all time, sad but true
                    great post and ideas but they will never happen specially the life time bans.....

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                    • Chuckguy
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by RicDaRula
                      great post and ideas but they will never happen specially the life time bans.....
                      yeah but its wishful thinking
                      too much money to be made so i say let them all cheat then we will really know who is elite

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