Showtime lost $12 million for Mayweather-Guerrero ppv?

[Kuyukut]

if you factored in the ppv subscribers that are asking for refunds on all of fraud’s boring ppv fights, i’d think showtime and hbo lost at least hundreds of millions.

[thuggery]

Well, the PPV did bomb hard for Mayweather standards. His fans did say he could pull 1 mil against virtually anyone, and that clearly wasn't the case.

[StarPower]

Well, the PPV did bomb hard for Mayweather standards. His fans did say he could pull 1 mil against virtually anyone, and that clearly wasn't the case.

Even after that long ass expose the TS just posted there is still no smoking gun. All I keep reading are words like rumored and estimated. In this twitter/message board world you dont even need facts anymore. All some hack has to do is scream loud enough to the right people and rumors become facts.
Even Fat Dan, who is a Sr. writer for ESPN not some jerkoff, never broke the story on his website. That should raise a red flag right there. An outfit like ESPN, which is the premier sports medium in the US, wont allow itself to be liable for a writers gut feeling. You need a smoking gun or they will loose creditablity.

[Luilun]

You have to be stupid to pay a guy 30 million to fight has beens and little class b fighters

[hectari]

You have to be stupid to pay a guy 30 million to fight has beens and little class b fighters

More like Desperate. Golden Boy is desperate for a star and they don't know how to build talent like Top Rank does, so they are willing to over pay Floyd Mayweather.

Arum won't do that because he knows how to build fighters, he built up Floyd, Oscar, built up Foremans comeback, built up so many mexican legends, and pushed Pacmans career to the top, making Pacman the highest grossing non American non heavyweight fighter ever.

This is why Golden Boy are called Amatuers, Richard Shaeffer hasn't really made a huge profit from having Floyd, they have taken losses and barely broke even in all their fights with Floyd except for the huge Oscar fight. Floyd retiring or getting knocked out will be the best thing to happen to the sport, we need to get rid of this cherry picking boring braggadocios victim playing racist hater for the sport to grow.

But Golden Boy is desperate for a name and they are willing to pay or take the short end of the stick thinking its a loss worth taking for the future. After Floyd retires who will they have? they don't know how to build stars, Top Rank has build guys from scratch, its why Golden Boy are rooks.

[big_james10]

Showtime didn't lose a dime on Mayweather/Guerrerro. Anyone who says that is engaging in blatant speculation based on a lie. There is absolutely no evidence to back up this ridiculous claim.

As far as the $75 price tag for Mayweather/Alvarez, if you don't want to pay it, then don't pay it and quit talking about it.

[2501]

Showtime didn't lose a dime on Mayweather/Guerrerro. Anyone who says that is engaging in blatant speculation based on a lie. There is absolutely no evidence to back up this ridiculous claim.

As far as the $75 price tag for Mayweather/Alvarez, if you don't want to pay it, then don't pay it and quit talking about it.

Can you provide evidence on what Showtime generated?

[edgarg]

these fools with these so called 80-90m pay days for floyd are insane. he earned like 30m for guerrero (just his guarantee) because the ppv flopped, the fight will need to do oscar numbers like he did vs floyd for floyd to walk away with that much which is never happening as floyd is simply not entertaining enough in the ring


showtime need around 1.1m-1.2m to break even, so if the fight does higher, floyd starts getting his ppv bonus

how much will he seriously make? who are these people spreading these 80m lies lol? whats the point, anyone who is not thick can tell its total bs but then again floyd stans are not the smartest people out there

Hello there. Right on the mark again as usual. People don't seem to consider that from the total the PPV people take 50-55% of the PPV sales. Then the Irs moves in and takes 39% which, with State and local taxes comes to 42%. The the promoter must get about 25%,. Even if it's a "flat fee" as we've been told, they could hardly work for less, considering the amount of cash expenses and huge work load to get the fights done. Months of work and over 1000 employees. Then we have trainers, cut men, corner men, etc. travel exes accomodations .....I know some of this comes out of the promoter's pocket.......

The advantage here may be from sponsors, theatres, closed circuit showings etc. But no matter how it goes I just can't see Mayweather taking home anything near $40 mill. Just think about it; that's a massive amount. I always feel that much of the huge boxer paydays are just inflated for PR. It gives a vicarious feeling to the ordinary mutts who do the paying-out, in the same way that the Hollywood stars used to have adoring fans right through the worst days of the Depression when 10 cents for a movie was often hard to come by.

As for Mayweather's "guarantee" We all know that when he was guaranteeing himself, it was fake, so why should this be different, I see Showtime maybe guaranteeing $15 mill and Mayweather putting up the rest- which of course since it's to himself he doesn't have to take out a single cent. Even those sums are hard to swallow.

By the way, for the guy wanting the source of the report, the writer's name is just below the title......

[Double_L]

Showtime didn't lose a dime on Mayweather/Guerrerro. Anyone who says that is engaging in blatant speculation based on a lie. There is absolutely no evidence to back up this ridiculous claim.

As far as the $75 price tag for Mayweather/Alvarez, if you don't want to pay it, then don't pay it and quit talking about it.

Lol as if you can prove otherwise. And no, shady ambiguous statements from Showtime Execs don't count. You're doing as much speculation as everyone else. What a joke you are.

[big_james10]

You have to be stupid to pay a guy 30 million to fight has beens and little class b fighters

That is why Bob Arum only pays Manny Pacquaio $5.6 million to fight has beens and class b fighters. Arum keeps the other $24 million the fight generates for himself.

As far as Floyd goes, he pays himself $30 million plus to fight these guys, not Golden Boy Promotions. GBP simply serves as the promoter of record and gets paid a fee for doing so. All the profits from the fight, minus the expenses such as undercard fighter purses, go to Mayweather.